I'm surprised Mids haven't taken the claimed ones yet.

Thats wrong, they got alinne ~1hour. Was claimed from Requim .. and i can bet that they try scat deep in the night cause its at lvl 9 now

Don't you need four players in a group to claim a keep? Although this would be a custom change, how about allowing players to claim keeps solo. Perhaps that may allow more claiming action? Just a thought.

Caemma wrote:

RonELuvv wrote:I have to agree with those that say Midgard is the worst at zerging a keep and not claiming them. I play on Midgard all the time now and allthough I constantly see people going with anywhere from 1-3 fg's to take keeps I never see the keeps being claimed. For those Mid's that actually want to use the excuse that Hibs/Albs just take them back late at night when they cant defend, that is certainly laughable. The last 2 nights when I was on at around 9pm (CST-American) there was fg's of Mids taking keeps. I guess what I'm saying is that Mids are always taking keeps very late at night so to use that as an excuse is just pathetic.

The problem is pretty simple. The people in Midgard that enjoy taking keeps want it all. They want to make good rp's while taking claimed keeps, but then dont want to allow other realms to do the same. Its overall pretty pathetic. Nobody is saying you need to claim every single keep you take, and that you need to make them lvl 10, but claiming a few keeps and putting them at lvl 4-6 would give the other realms the opportunity to do the same thing you seem to enjoy so much. You can hide behind your BS excuses all you want. BP's is not an issue, I dont care how small your guild is. Midgard has the highest population late nights so to say you cant defend the keeps at night is also laughable. Not to mention, do you think its easy for Hibernia or Albion to get a decent amount of defenders late at night when you guys are taking keeps? I can assure you it is much harder on those realms.

The fact is simple, if you claim and upgrade keeps it benefits the entire server. If you just take them all and dont claim them or upgrade any then it just benefits Midgard, and that is exactly what you see. The people doing this care nothing about the server or other players, all they care about is going out and getting super easy rp's by zerg'ing keeps and leaving the other realms w/ nothing to do in return.

That could solve this players thinking issue?

Caemma wrote:I see the point "i give to you, you give to me", but tecnically this is war, so dont blame who dont want to feed (for free) rps to theirs enemy, just give some bonus to guilds who claim keeps (and increase it for each keep lvl) and you will see plenty of keep claimed and upgraded every day.
Staff just set more rps for keep take and nerfed the guard tasks, i dont see any tools that could increase keep defend (no bonus for claim, no siegeweapons to defend outnumbered).

Hahahaha, too funny Caemma. Getting RvR advice from you would be like going to a Civil Rights rally lead by the KKK.

1. The "war" mentality doesnt hold up. Who takes land in a war and doesnt defend it? Also, get over the whole "3 realms at war" thing man. That is not the case here. When we get 1k+ people and an active RvR population then maybe we can play that way, but with 85% of the players playing all 3 realms an us only having 1-15 people RvR'ing at night that whole war scenario is overplayed.

2. Basically what you are saying is that if the GM's implement something for you to earn even more RP's then you will defend. Doesnt that fly directly in the face of your dumb war comment? I mean I dont remember in any war where an army said, "Well, we are not going to defend our keep/land because its just not worth it. Maybe if the government paid us more we would defend it..."

Of course, I have no clue why I would expect a better comment from a guy who kills people 8 vs 1 all the time....

Ceadius wrote:Don't you need four players in a group to claim a keep? Although this would be a custom change, how about allowing players to claim keeps solo. Perhaps that may allow more claiming action? Just a thought.

This is a very good comment and might actually help the problem out a little bit. I doubt that too many people taking a keep are less then 4, but it does happen on occasion. Also, if a solo or duo is running around in the RvR zone they may decide to claim a keep to watch for taskers or keep takers.

3-4 FGM out taking keeps and do any get claimed? Nope.

RonELuvv wrote:Hahahaha, too funny Caemma. Getting RvR advice from you would be like going to a Civil Rights rally lead by the KKK.

RonELuvv wrote:

Caemma wrote:Hahahaha, too funny Caemma. Getting RvR advice from you would be like going to a Civil Rights rally lead by the KKK.

1. The "war" mentality doesnt hold up. Who takes land in a war and doesnt defend it? Also, get over the whole "3 realms at war" thing man. That is not the case here. When we get 1k+ people and an active RvR population then maybe we can play that way, but with 85% of the players playing all 3 realms an us only having 1-15 people RvR'ing at night that whole war scenario is overplayed.

2. Basically what you are saying is that if the GM's implement something for you to earn even more RP's then you will defend. Doesnt that fly directly in the face of your dumb war comment? I mean I dont remember in any war where an army said, "Well, we are not going to defend our keep/land because its just not worth it. Maybe if the government paid us more we would defend it..."

Of course, I have no clue why I would expect a better comment from a guy who kills people 8 vs 1 all the time....

Oh god why.
I will explain easly for you..

Basically you have two way:
- keep talking with walltext repeating what all ppl already said, and just QQing about ppl who dont want to claim (it's not obligatory you know that?), because you dont earn enough rps hehe
- give a possible solution to solve the problem as i've done.

1. This is not Risiko™ man, you dont take any land to keep it safe, you just conquer a keep because is from an enemy realm, and tell what you want, but if the lord give 0 rps you will never see any keep raid (except for DF open) deal with it, you should be enough smart to reach this point.

2. Even a dumb should understand that defend something that worth something to you will encurage you to DEFEND it. Your example fail because we are not attacking/defending our internal lands, we could survive without all keeps if we want. But is still a stupid example speaking about this game

Of course, I have no clue why I would expect a better comment from a fat marmot who just play a ranger and dont understand how the thing really work, just look at your proposition about let claim keep by soloer, yes things will change for sure, keep your brainstorm going it's funn

At least he isn't a fat troll!

Austerim wrote:At least he isn't a fat troll!

you are one !!!!

Orihiime wrote:you are one !!!!

Swindle isn't a fat Zerker.

Caemma, leave it up to you to not respond to either of my direct rebuttals to your comment, but rather give 3 very indirect and pointless responses. Great job trolling though! You always do well at that for a guy who has no skill in game.

1. You also repeat yourself and what others have said. Pot meet kettle.

2. Do you realise just how hypocritical you are being? "This is war..." then later when I take your own overused comment and flip it back on you, now you say, "This is not Risiko (i'm assuming you mean Risk the board game but not for sure) man..." So what is it? Is it war or not? Make up your mind and quit playing forum troll. You cant defend one action by saying its war, then say you dont defend because its not really war.

3. Even a dumb... dumb what? Dumb is an adjective, not a noun. The Hibs have defended keeps, the Albs defend, and I've even seen Mids defend a keep and guess what, right now there is no bonus that is worthwhile. So I guess that proves that people will defend. You see, the Albs and Hibs claim and upgrade keeps to induce action. So when the Mid keep take zerg shows up, as they always do, they can defend. That is the reward Caemma, action.

The point of this is that Midgard claims that it doesnt claim keeps because 1) they will not be defended late at night when they are not on and 2) that they dont have the bp's to claim. My rebuttals were simple. 1) Late at night the only people I see taking keeps on a regular basis are Midgard. Yes, I see it because I'm on my hunter every night (yah, not ranger). 2) When people run in 1-3 fg's to take keeps late at night and then they say nobody in group has bp's to claim or upgrade that is a joke. Maybe once in about 20 raids that MIGHT happen but the cost of bp's is almost nothing for a guild to claim. The fact is that you and the people doing this are just rp hungry and you could care less about the state of the server how anyone else enjoys the game.

HAHAHAHAH, Yah, your right, I only play ranger... oh wait, thats right, I play hunter now, oh, and I have a BM that is also played. Sorry, maybe I should make an easy mode zerker and run around all night killing solo's with an 8 man so that way in years of playing a game I can get to the great RR of 8L3.... How about instead of trolling the forum you actually learn how to play your class. It must be hard hitting charge and your 2 styles. Hell Caemma, tell you what, let me get RR5 on my hunter and I will bet you 10p that I can beat your Beserker in a duel. How about it? Put your plats where your mouth is.

RonELuvv wrote:Caemma, leave it up to you to not respond to either of my direct rebuttals to your comment, but rather give 3 very indirect and pointless responses. Great job trolling though! You always do well at that for a guy who has no skill in game.

1. You also repeat yourself and what others have said. Pot meet kettle.

2. Do you realise just how hypocritical you are being? "This is war..." then later when I take your own overused comment and flip it back on you, now you say, "This is not Risiko (i'm assuming you mean Risk the board game but not for sure) man..." So what is it? Is it war or not? Make up your mind and quit playing forum troll. You cant defend one action by saying its war, then say you dont defend because its not really war.

3. Even a dumb... dumb what? Dumb is an adjective, not a noun. The Hibs have defended keeps, the Albs defend, and I've even seen Mids defend a keep and guess what, right now there is no bonus that is worthwhile. So I guess that proves that people will defend. You see, the Albs and Hibs claim and upgrade keeps to induce action. So when the Mid keep take zerg shows up, as they always do, they can defend. That is the reward Caemma, action.

The point of this is that Midgard claims that it doesnt claim keeps because 1) they will not be defended late at night when they are not on and 2) that they dont have the bp's to claim. My rebuttals were simple. 1) Late at night the only people I see taking keeps on a regular basis are Midgard. Yes, I see it because I'm on my hunter every night (yah, not ranger). 2) When people run in 1-3 fg's to take keeps late at night and then they say nobody in group has bp's to claim or upgrade that is a joke. Maybe once in about 20 raids that MIGHT happen but the cost of bp's is almost nothing for a guild to claim. The fact is that you and the people doing this are just rp hungry and you could care less about the state of the server how anyone else enjoys the game.

HAHAHAHAH, Yah, your right, I only play ranger... oh wait, thats right, I play hunter now, oh, and I have a BM that is also played. Sorry, maybe I should make an easy mode zerker and run around all night killing solo's with an 8 man so that way in years of playing a game I can get to the great RR of 8L3.... How about instead of trolling the forum you actually learn how to play your class. It must be hard hitting charge and your 2 styles. Hell Caemma, tell you what, let me get RR5 on my hunter and I will bet you 10p that I can beat your Beserker in a duel. How about it? Put your plats where your mouth is.

Again your best


Seriously i dont even wanna answer to your provocation because of your little age (it will be infite discuss about that), i just wrote one single line when i quoted your repeating post (repeating my quote strage hehe?)

That could solve this players thinking issue?

And your smart, productive, intelligent first answer was:

Hahahaha, too funny Caemma. Getting RvR advice from you would be like going to a Civil Rights rally lead by the KKK.

Yeah digga, i think you are a lil bit frustrated, im truly sorry if this is my fault when i killed you maaaany times on horse route, gather more friends instead of enrich your psychologist (or in the worst case fill the forum of walltext)

Have fun hammy, and please let solo claim as Zacknafail said, im sure that all mids keep will be claimed!!!! (I bet 10p )

this one time i was taking a keep and there were people inside and we killed them

A compelling story, pythion!