Cruell wrote:
The staff has given us the tools to increase RvR and make the server more fun for everyone. If we the players don't make use of these tool because we don't want anyone else to make a few extra RP's then its just pure selfishness and there is no one to blame but the players.

Yea you're right my friend, but most of the guilds we are zergin with don't got enough gbp's to claim keeps that are not good to defend, like fensalir for example.

You gotta see that all the guilds that are frequent running in the zerg, they are guilds that are quite new to rvr.
Later, for sure there will be more claiming. When we are actualy able to kill sth *caugh*

Myth and kokosnuss are older guilds with many more gbp's for the moment.
Ours are average about 10k average.

Austerim wrote:Hibs at least reclaim the keeps (usually), the same can't be said for Mids.

its easy to claim all keeps when hibs got 2 keeps at all and mids got 20 keeps to care about.

Hightmute wrote:Yea you're right my friend, but most of the guilds we are zergin with don't got enough gbp's to claim keeps that are not good to defend, like fensalir for example.

Hmmm what? To Claim a Keep cost what 500 BP and LvL 4 upgrade is what 50 BPS per Tick? It´s 2000 RPS and not 500 so idk what you try to tell here?
When we created Addengarde we claimed and upgraded on our second Day in the Frontiers a Keep....And it wasn´t a problem of BP!

Hightmute wrote:Yea you're right my friend, but most of the guilds we are zergin with don't got enough gbp's to claim keeps that are not good to defend, like fensalir for example.

You gotta see that all the guilds that are frequent running in the zerg, they are guilds that are quite new to rvr.
Later, for sure there will be more claiming. When we are actualy able to kill sth *caugh*

Myth and kokosnuss are older guilds with many more gbp's for the moment.
Ours are average about 10k average.

With your sweet zerg this guilds sometimes or 100% with you:

Die Besorger, Les Croc Divines, Blutrausch, Schwarze Legion, Asgards Wächter and so on ..

Please, like xacrag says .. its not a problem normaly to have enaugh BP's .. But .. ah.. i know your problem... Keepraids dont give BP's ... maybe you stop late night keep raiding and do normal rvr with fokus on killing Enemys not on keeplords

Heartace wrote: But .. ah.. i know your problem... Keepraids dont give BP's ... maybe you stop late night keep raiding and do normal rvr with fokus on killing Enemys not on keeplords

Why should they change their play style just for some forum heros? I think u miss unterstand sth here. They ve fun raiding keeps, others dont not their problem.
But yes u should ve enough BPs to claim a keep on lvl4 with pretty few BP and 10k+ is way enough to claim for a while.

yea i guess u misunderstood me.
claiming a keep means it's the guilds keep! its something emotional.

i couldnt claim a keep without being sure to be able to have a chance to defend it.
you know, its like giving the keeplord a promise to be save under your flag, and to do everything possible to
secure the keep if it's attacked.

if u dont see it that way its cool, but stop being rude. its not nice to talk with ppl who always try to insult you
and speak with u as if u were a retard.

and 10k isnt that much when u need weeks for gathering it.
addengarde is a group that can kill 8vs8 in emain so u have solid income but for us its not easy to win fights.

Claiming keeps do not grant defenders more time to defend them, upgrading doors do.

There really is no reason to claim and level keeps if nobody is willing to undergo the door upgrading process.

The only purpose of leveling up keeps is to "bait" the enemies into taking them.

Heartace wrote:Please, like xacrag says .. its not a problem normaly to have enaugh BP's .. But .. ah.. i know your problem... Keepraids dont give BP's ... maybe you stop late night keep raiding and do normal rvr with fokus on killing Enemys not on keeplords

No It's nice to know that there's a BG to seek and destroy outside of Emain, i mean a BG without a high realm rank team inside, killable with a single balance group of not elite players.
This kind of BG can create a new type of rvr action, where casual players can have fun. I hope that a similar BG will appear in Albion and Hibernia.

Hightmute wrote:

Cruell wrote:
The staff has given us the tools to increase RvR and make the server more fun for everyone. If we the players don't make use of these tool because we don't want anyone else to make a few extra RP's then its just pure selfishness and there is no one to blame but the players.

Yea you're right my friend, but most of the guilds we are zergin with don't got enough gbp's to claim keeps that are not good to defend, like fensalir for example.

You gotta see that all the guilds that are frequent running in the zerg, they are guilds that are quite new to rvr.
Later, for sure there will be more claiming. When we are actualy able to kill sth *caugh*

Hightmute"

Myth and kokosnuss are older guilds with many more gbp's for the moment.
Ours are average about 10k average.


[quote="Austerim wrote:Hibs at least reclaim the keeps (usually), the same can't be said for Mids.

its easy to claim all keeps when hibs got 2 keeps at all and mids got 20 keeps to care about.

AHHH I see and understand the problem now mate, no worries Myth will continue to do our part to keep the action going and will upgrade our keep.

I want you to know that I was a little upset when you left alb because i really enjoyed playing with you and we had a lot of success in the caster group when you where our pally. I think that is felt by others in alliance and why some may be so harsh to you on these forums. But they don't understand like I do how hard you tried to get Albs to work together and how much it bothered you that most ignored you.
I am very happy that things have worked out for you in Midgard and want you to know that you have succeeded in Albion also because now albs have to work together too or get destroyed. Its funny isn't it ? They wouldn't work together with you but now they have to work together because of you So in the end you have accomplished both goals.

Keep it up my friend, just ignore the flames and keep doing what you are doing because its good for the whole server and its fun for a very large amount of people and it will just keep growing and getting better. In fact because of you and your mids Myth is going to get our guild RvR day going again, so look for a Myth zerg coming to a frontier near you soon \o/. as one of my guildies put it .... The Redcoats are Coming !!!!

Thanks for the fun mate
/salute

Hightmute wrote:its easy to claim all keeps when hibs got 2 keeps at all and mids got 20 keeps to care about.

There's only 21 keeps though.

6 keeps owned by hibs, 3 claimed -> 50%
8 keeps owned by mids 0 claimed -> 0,000000%
7 keeps owned by albs 4 claimed -> ~ 57%


Stop giving stupid excuses mr epicwarrior.
MID got the highest population of all 3 realms at the moment and you wanna tell me people can´t claim stuff ?



/edit during writing my post your fabulous zerg of 1man-guilds got a claimed hibkeep OHNOES and ofc not claimed ...

I have to agree with those that say Midgard is the worst at zerging a keep and not claiming them. I play on Midgard all the time now and allthough I constantly see people going with anywhere from 1-3 fg's to take keeps I never see the keeps being claimed. For those Mid's that actually want to use the excuse that Hibs/Albs just take them back late at night when they cant defend, that is certainly laughable. The last 2 nights when I was on at around 9pm (CST-American) there was fg's of Mids taking keeps. I guess what I'm saying is that Mids are always taking keeps very late at night so to use that as an excuse is just pathetic.

The problem is pretty simple. The people in Midgard that enjoy taking keeps want it all. They want to make good rp's while taking claimed keeps, but then dont want to allow other realms to do the same. Its overall pretty pathetic. Nobody is saying you need to claim every single keep you take, and that you need to make them lvl 10, but claiming a few keeps and putting them at lvl 4-6 would give the other realms the opportunity to do the same thing you seem to enjoy so much. You can hide behind your BS excuses all you want. BP's is not an issue, I dont care how small your guild is. Midgard has the highest population late nights so to say you cant defend the keeps at night is also laughable. Not to mention, do you think its easy for Hibernia or Albion to get a decent amount of defenders late at night when you guys are taking keeps? I can assure you it is much harder on those realms.

The fact is simple, if you claim and upgrade keeps it benefits the entire server. If you just take them all and dont claim them or upgrade any then it just benefits Midgard, and that is exactly what you see. The people doing this care nothing about the server or other players, all they care about is going out and getting super easy rp's by zerg'ing keeps and leaving the other realms w/ nothing to do in return.

RonELuvv wrote:I have to agree with those that say Midgard is the worst at zerging a keep and not claiming them. I play on Midgard all the time now and allthough I constantly see people going with anywhere from 1-3 fg's to take keeps I never see the keeps being claimed. For those Mid's that actually want to use the excuse that Hibs/Albs just take them back late at night when they cant defend, that is certainly laughable. The last 2 nights when I was on at around 9pm (CST-American) there was fg's of Mids taking keeps. I guess what I'm saying is that Mids are always taking keeps very late at night so to use that as an excuse is just pathetic.

The problem is pretty simple. The people in Midgard that enjoy taking keeps want it all. They want to make good rp's while taking claimed keeps, but then dont want to allow other realms to do the same. Its overall pretty pathetic. Nobody is saying you need to claim every single keep you take, and that you need to make them lvl 10, but claiming a few keeps and putting them at lvl 4-6 would give the other realms the opportunity to do the same thing you seem to enjoy so much. You can hide behind your BS excuses all you want. BP's is not an issue, I dont care how small your guild is. Midgard has the highest population late nights so to say you cant defend the keeps at night is also laughable. Not to mention, do you think its easy for Hibernia or Albion to get a decent amount of defenders late at night when you guys are taking keeps? I can assure you it is much harder on those realms.

The fact is simple, if you claim and upgrade keeps it benefits the entire server. If you just take them all and dont claim them or upgrade any then it just benefits Midgard, and that is exactly what you see. The people doing this care nothing about the server or other players, all they care about is going out and getting super easy rp's by zerg'ing keeps and leaving the other realms w/ nothing to do in return.

That could solve this players thinking issue?

Caemma wrote:I see the point "i give to you, you give to me", but tecnically this is war, so dont blame who dont want to feed (for free) rps to theirs enemy, just give some bonus to guilds who claim keeps (and increase it for each keep lvl) and you will see plenty of keep claimed and upgraded every day.
Staff just set more rps for keep take and nerfed the guard tasks, i dont see any tools that could increase keep defend (no bonus for claim, no siegeweapons to defend outnumbered).

11 keep mids, 2x claimed

18% of their keeps claimed. Nice!

Hib got 3x keep, 2x claimed, so 66.6% !!!!!