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And again, this early in the morning/deep in the night / if no defenders are out raiding are the reason why we wont to feed with xtra rps. Besorger nerds are the perfect example for this conscious decision

Heartace wrote:Back to topic:
And again, this early in the morning/deep in the night / if no defenders are out raiding are the reason why we wont to feed with xtra rps. Besorger nerds are the perfect example for this conscious decision

Last night we were 3-4 and fought them and died. Came back with equal numbers and they ran away and wouldn't fight us.

Austerim wrote:

Heartace wrote:Our guild dont upgrade keeps actually any more because mids/hibs raid the upgraded keeps after the most enemys are inside bed. Easy rps without defenders .. We dont want to feed this playstyle with extra bonus rps.

Its funny with mid raid zerg .. but its not funny if they call for help .. like DG.

If they start a 3fg zerg and get beated by 2 fgs its just too sweet that they call for DG ... It looks like midgard cant to anything with the wannebe DG guild ...

On a action a reaction is following ... Thats all...

Hibs at least reclaim the keeps (usually), the same can't be said for Mids.

Yes your realm is better!!!111

Austerim wrote:

Heartace wrote:Back to topic:
And again, this early in the morning/deep in the night / if no defenders are out raiding are the reason why we wont to feed with xtra rps. Besorger nerds are the perfect example for this conscious decision

Last night we were 3-4 and fought them and died. Came back with equal numbers and they ran away and wouldn't fight us.

No wait, you are better than all this scum!!!one


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From my point of view, there is no importance to get claimed keeps for me or for my realm because it doesn't worth anything "material", usually i dont go to defend keeps (depends on wich kind of group i've guild or pug), but anyway own a keep doesnt give any bonus to my guild, maybe just 1% rps for all (who cares..).
Even more, upgrading the keep doesnt give anything at all, only door upgrade could give your something "useful" like more time to come for defend. But if i see 25 enemies on my keep and we are 1fg, with no siegeweapons it's unbelivable that i could even think about defend it.

Cruell wrote:The staff has given us the tools to increase RvR and make the server more fun for everyone. If we the players don't make use of these tool because we don't want anyone else to make a few extra RP's then its just pure selfishness and there is no one to blame but the players.

I see the point "i give to you, you give to me", but tecnically this is war, so dont blame who dont want to feed (for free) rps to theirs enemy, just give some bonus to guilds who claim keeps (and increase it for each keep lvl) and you will see plenty of keep claimed and upgraded every day.
Staff just set more rps for keep take and nerfed the guard tasks, i dont see any tools that could increase keep defend (no bonus for claim, no siegeweapons to defend outnumbered).

That's all

I know I'm better than them. They zerg keeps or have a FG at 1am EST then run off and log when we build a FG after they zerged our trio-4 man.

Caemma wrote:Back in topic:

From my point of view, there is no importance to get claimed keeps for me or for my realm because it doesn't worth anything "material", usually i dont go to defend keeps (depends on wich kind of group i've guild or pug), but anyway own a keep doesnt give any bonus to my guild, maybe just 1% rps for all (who cares..).
Even more, upgrading the keep doesnt give anything at all, only door upgrade could give your something "useful" like more time to come for defend. But if i see 25 enemies on my keep and we are 1fg, with no siegeweapons it's unbelivable that i could even think about defend it.

Cruell wrote:The staff has given us the tools to increase RvR and make the server more fun for everyone. If we the players don't make use of these tool because we don't want anyone else to make a few extra RP's then its just pure selfishness and there is no one to blame but the players.

I see the point "i give to you, you give to me", but tecnically this is war, so dont blame who dont want to feed (for free) rps to theirs enemy, just give some bonus to guilds who claim keeps (and increase it for each keep lvl) and you will see plenty of keep claimed and upgraded every day.
Staff just set more rps for keep take and nerfed the guard tasks, i dont see any tools that could increase keep defend (no bonus for claim, no siegeweapons to defend outnumbered).

That's all

The staff always say they want to go to 1.69 .. but, if i am not wrong .. i cannot remember, and if yes, with patch, you get rps for raid keeps ( per lvl 500 rps )

In my opinion its much be better if they add things like underdog bonus who increase, more xp, more gold, more rps and so on .. not a bunsh of ****** like this with the keeps, or degrease of guardtasks ..

Sometimes i flame, sometimes not .. i always laugh about the changes from the staff .. sometimes actually livelike .. sometimes 1.80 like .. and then they talking about they wanne go to 1.69 ... uthgard is more a 'i change what i want and what i need" like

Austerim wrote:I know I'm better than them. They zerg keeps or have a FG at 1am EST then run off and log when we build a FG after they zerged our trio-4 man.

I am not sure, if you mean my group from yesterday and I dont know if you were the fg hibs who run away 2 times from us and hide in bledmeer, but if so then you should realize, which group run away, full of fear.

We tried 2 x to fight this hibgroup, we tried to kit them out of keep but after 30min camping hibs inside of bledmeer, in a time were all europeans would sleep (7 am sunday and after 12h nightfights) you cannot expect us to raid/open a keep to get a fgh with a camping animist. We went to bed.

Tiberian1986 wrote:I am not sure, if you mean my group from yesterday and I dont know if you were the fg hibs who run away 2 times from us and hide in bledmeer, but if so then you should realize, which group run away, full of fear.

We tried 2 x to fight this hibgroup, we tried to kit them out of keep but after 30min camping hibs inside of bledmeer, in a time were all europeans would sleep (7 am sunday and after 12h nightfights) you cannot expect us to raid/open a keep to get a fgh with a camping animist. We went to bed.

We were less than you, why would we fight you in the open field? Once we got enough to fight you, you guys were nowhere to be found.

I cannot say how many u were but we talked about the classes which we saw and the number was not under 7. Maybe u were 7 ppl and I can understand, why you camp with an animist in a keep but you should also understand, why we did not want to open 7am a keep with a animist inside( with only 1 ram).

I cannot talk about the besorger but my guild group " schwarze legion" does not raid keeps for rps. Its more a "lets do something as guild" event. We wanted to make the worm, but he was down, we wanted to make the prince, they were down, then we killed some hibs inside df because they got df. After this, we took 1-2 besorger (our ally) and went back to frontier, to get some fg vs fg fights. We had 11 hours always a fg alb or a fg hibs as enemie. We raided the keeps because this brought always 1 defend group (enemy).So we played till 7 am middle european time. Our last action was to take bledmeer. There we only saw 2 small group hibs. We wanted to take bled and we wanted to go then to bed. Well, after you filled up your group and camping there, we went to bed.

While a primetime we would try to raid that keep but not 7 am

Bard BM Animist Warden Druid was our setup. Hero joined but that was after you guys left.

That was the small group we killed. Later we saw more ppl but anyway. My aim was to make clear why we did not raid this keep. It was late and we were to lazy to open this keep. And if that is true that u were only 5 then its much more clear, that we did not wanted to raid. 30 min or longer raid for 5 ppl xD noooo^^ I understand, why you camped, but u should now understand, why we went to bed.

Kelodiran wrote:

Frendir wrote:

Magicco wrote:hightmute u pussy
if we raid the keep where you and your friends are inside, you just loggout and wait to get auto-ported back .. pffff

In fact they dont log out to get ported back, they log out to log in for reraid from inside

Stop emoting me after rushing us with 3 fgs or so. that makes little kelo cry.

Just gave u a firm salute, Sir

guys do you know the "PM" button ?

Magicco wrote:guys do you know the "PM" button ?

If everything personal would be said via PM the Forum would be a very boring and empty place

Frendir wrote:

Magicco wrote:guys do you know the "PM" button ?

If everything personal would be said via PM the Forum would be a very boring and empty place

so everyone is already actively pming??

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bigger than what ? ^^


cool to see pvp animation around keeps, better have fight than rve bus coordinating to not meet themselves....