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Blue
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Postby Blue » Oct 12, 2012 13:35

We understand your problems. Please wait for our feedback. Not every upcoming change can be discussed in the Council but we can work on solutions of existing problems.

Offtopic: On another note, if you ask why we didn't fix defense penetration yet you should ask yourself how much you helped to get it fixed. In a free project there is only limited time and helpers are required. Unfortunately it seems that repeatedly crying about issues not being fixed is always easier than helping.
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later.

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is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure."


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[Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????"
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Postby pweet » Oct 12, 2012 14:00

Make a testing schedule what needs to be tested and how and give out Uthalis for good work. See SI Raids, u ll wonder how many ppl will help.

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Postby Cjasca » Oct 12, 2012 14:31

Jeah Totenpfeil we are here to discuss a useless and unfair change...once again. Ty for pointing it out...and youre also right...its hard to be fair to everyone, I can see that.

BUT : Not only the Staff is investing time in this "Project Utgard", Players are also spending time to improve the expirience for everyone...and IF <- ! Staff would THINK about the effects of their changes caused in the community BEFORE they implement things ONLY TO NERF / REMOVE them again after the players arranged with them...well...we would be a much happier family...


So plz enlighten me...cuz knowlegde is power...and I really would like to know WHY they implemented tajendi...if they hate it so much...WHY they implemented Uthalis...and no events to make them pratical...WHY they spread reskins over the server and only very FEW are able to use them...( could go on...and on....etc. pp. )

These are all custom changes MADE BY STAFF....which are now desperate to get rid of them....ALL these changes cost resources ( precious time of Staff ) to IMPLEMENT...and even more time to REMOVE them now...



Thats my point in the last change now : Long term effects? This hole discussion could have easily be forseen cuz everyone who worked hard for their charge items want them back...the best....just like before ( not Abydos´ before :gaga: )


And guess what? They are right in their desire to be treated fair :wink:
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Postby jbell » Oct 12, 2012 14:34

So , After reading all of this ... My Neck of Body ( 30-60p) my akars (80-100p) suketh's hynm(20-30p),char'esh'ire(20-40P) is all trash now ? any where from 150-240 plat , on 4 items out of my whole template..... Real Freaking cool . This Makes me want to jump right on and go grind more items , Build whole new template.... Oh yea and this is just one toon..... Perfect ... :wall:

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Postby Spivo » Oct 12, 2012 14:40

Well, I went to housing today, and no Neck of Body for sale, Akar's for 200p, so don't panic just yet... :)
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Postby pweet » Oct 12, 2012 14:43

You ve to do not a single new temp, you can just switch items for charging up. It lasts 10min :idea:

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Postby jbell » Oct 12, 2012 14:47

Ahh good point , I suppose i will try and sell them now to get what i can for them ...... 8)

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Postby Celteen » Oct 12, 2012 14:48

Please dont mess this up with Tajendi. The staff said multiple times that Tajendi is temporary and those items will get nerfed / decay faster.
If you have fun to go there feel free but dont cry when those items are not #1 anymore, you had an advantage for years.
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Postby jbell » Oct 12, 2012 14:55

Ahh, someone That didn't spend the time/money to get the best items .....

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Postby Cjasca » Oct 12, 2012 14:58

oh jeah I totally jerked off everytime I even managed to kill those full buffed ranger only to study the buffs he had...and notice he still had more buffs than me...with all the charges + selfbuffs...made me feel like I am in advantage :D


But iam sure Sneakeen told you about what I mean...
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Postby realac0 » Oct 12, 2012 15:03

@Toten

i understand your point about the "cry" on WS/DP bug. I understand Blue too.
i understand blue too when say that will be hard/impossible implement OLD RA's for the lack of information and, myself, don't remember how all was working even if i play daoc from day 1 / beta.

what i don't understand are all these changes for try to emulate something that WILL NEVER BE POSSIBLE TO EMULATE (1.69 old classic daoc). We can't get old ra's, we will have a very hard chance to see WS/DP fixed etc etc

so WHY Staff continue focus on things like:

- remove barrels
- remove hastners
- change delve of high end DROPS see body neck
etc etc

when we will continue, FOREVER, be a full CUSTOM SERVER?

this is what i don't understand.

Aim 1.69 when will never be possible be REAL 1.69 is just stupid, and some changes (barrels, body neck etc), are useless because even when they will have ALL like 1.69, we will still be with NEW RA's (never existed on live) and WS/DP not working (exemple).

So stop it, give back all GOOD STUFFS u done around the years and let us play with it.

Focus on things not implemented (there are a LOT) not on a DREAM will never come TRUE.

repeat:

Uthgard IS and ALWAYS WILL BE a CUSTOM SERVER.

live with it.

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Postby ZaiQQ » Oct 12, 2012 15:09

@Blue, you guys talk about custom balancing ra's at some point, yet you guys give a 75 s/c from a mob that can be killed 1/2 times a day, thats controlled by keeps, and that you need alot of people for. I don't see the reasoning for introducing these charges prior to SI, all this is doing is ****** people off that get their items devaluated, have to remake spellcrafting pieces, farm new d/q rings, and we still gotta redo it again when si comes.

The problem isn't that you're making the charges livelike, its just that why now and not when si actually comes? Then s/c charges are easily accessible, theres tons of them, everyones happy and can recive them with little to no effort. Instead as of current standing, players like me who got alot of time, items, plats, can just buy them straight up and dominate.

As I stated earlier, the difference is 20 realm points using the new s/c charge. Another 4/6 points using it in combination with d/q. D/q is less of an issue since its more avaible to people, but the s/c is just plain stupidity. Its like, you move one step forward to take two steps back and further customize it.
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Postby Blue » Oct 12, 2012 15:18

Blue wrote:We understand your problems. Please wait for our feedback.
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later.

"It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something
is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure."


Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard"
Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand"

[Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????"
BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

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