pweet wrote:so poor albs will never be able to raid since the dont ve bombs
u think mids ve many bombs? they ve the same problem with PBAE and the zerg the hell out of you.
It is no game design fault, it s the albs which are the problem. Eg i there is no real big alliance i guess and so on...

Did I ever blame game design?
It sprung from an earlier comment, about albs leveling Wizards, and I mentioned it would be beneficial for them, in order to be able to conduct relic attacks/defences in the future.

And you don't just need bombs, you need aoe dps, because that is something zerglings are capable of doing, since they do good (interrupt) while still getting rewarded (rps). You can't trust the mindless zerglings to do anything in relic raids that doesn't reward them with rps (apart from healing, because they then expect their group mates to be doing the damage).

whoever said that AE dps makes no difference in a RR/Zerg fights needs to grow a brain :p, you can finish a group mission in every zerg fight if you throw some AE's around, generally make more RP. no need for one cast MA imo as long as your group is organised - really needed to have 15 casters nuking one troll?

Regarding albs, the only thing you miss to compete is Griselda haha, you have more than enough players (even if 90% don't know wtf they are doing) just need a lot better organisation.

Sure everyone can just throw ae to get his mission done, or you play as a bg and actually kill some targets quick ^^
Most RP you make by killing the counter zerg. If everyone is just trying to cap his own RP/h you will lose more often and in the end you get less rp.

Albion really does have a hard time class wise in rvr. our best class for zerg fights is the wizard, but its one of the worst classes for 8man. This does cause us a problem because people who leveled up wizards earlier could never get a group because there was no zerg action. Now we have zerg fights and keep fights and we have no wizards. It will take time to get some leveled up.

Another huge problem is the attitude of Mids and Hibs here that they MUST kill the albs first together every fight. I guess its because we are easy RP's I dont know, but when your smallest zerg constantly gets teamed up on by the two larger zergs then you soon end up with just two realms fighting instead of three.

A perfect example of this was the other day at Fens. Hibs where attacking Fens and mids where defending the tower. So we went to get in the fight and hit the Hibs from behind, we where holding the door fine and would have eventualy killed the hibs between us and the mids in the tower. BUT guess what a bunch of mids suddenly attack us hitting our support and the hibs pushed us at the same time and we all died then the hibs killed all the mids and took fens. But I guess the mids where just happy they got to team up on us with the hibs again.

The same thing goes on in 8man I cant remember how many times our 8man group would be fighting hibs and I would see mids come up on the fight from behind the hibs and run past so they could circle back and hit us from behind. It is some idea that is in the mindset of mids and hibs to kill albs first every time and I really dont understand why.

The thing is everyone likes to win and when you keep double teaming one realm then people eventually give up and that may be one of the reasons why we cant get people out to rvr on albion. Getting sandwiched and double constantly isnt any fun guys.

Another reason that is slowly improving was the attitude that prevailed on Albion that only 8man was cool and everyone else sucked. a few months ago when I led my last relic raid we actually had people insulting us in /broad and /say because we where trying to do a relic raid, something I doubt mids and hibs have had to deal with. But the attitude was that bad on Albion.

Things will get better for Albion eventually but it will be a struggle for a while.

They simply go for the easiest target with weakest defense first imo.

i repeat, no need for 15 casters to assist one target and i stand by my previous statement, the last caster group i played with in the zerg - didnt assist kiraa once but dropped a lot of targets ourselves - benefiting the bg as a whole. fair enough assist if you don't know what your doing but its better to have more than 1 good caster assist than everyone spamming their macro's :p

i prefer for 4 caster one MA... !

I will readily admit that as of now and for the past year Albion has been the underdog realm. I believe this will change with time just like when I first started Albion was the clear cut #1 realm and nobody else was even close. Midgard was in a much worse situation then you are now. After enough people either convinced new players to roll Mids and/or people started making toons and playing alts on Midgard then the population switched. Hibernia has always been the #2 realm for population and we always seem to be doing decent. Hibernia was on top for awhile when we owned all 6 relics and nobody could seem to muster enough to get them back. I firmly believe its all cycle's and trust me when I say at some point Albion will be back on top and you will see Hib/Mid threads complaining about how we dont have enough to compete.

When I first started between 2.5-3 years ago: Albion #1 BY FAR, Hib and Mid were about equal and the only chance we had against Albions #'s was to sometimes work together. Albion owned ALL the relics from me being lvl 1 till after I hit 50. If the Hibs were able to muster enough late night to get a relic or 2 then within the week Albion would come during primetime with 100+ people and take them back like a taking candy from a baby. It was right around when I hit the mid 5L's that the Hibs started forming up enough #'s to take the relics back and be able to hold them for awhile.

About 1.5-2 years ago: Hib had all 6 relics and the best RvR population of players. Albion was a clear cut #2. Midgard had fallen completely off and the only Mid group that ran consistantly was DG.

About 6 months - 1 year ago: Mids started coming out in #'s and probably had the most consistant #'s on a regular basis in RvR. They had all 6 relics on a few occasions. Hib's had decent #'s and were able to get some of the relics back on occasion. Albion fell off and everyone either went to Mid or Hib to play.

Who know's what will happen in another year or so. My guess is Albion goes back on top and Hibernia is due for a loss in players.

Your albion side report is really sad

Go Maelle they need you, came back to alb and do something damn nerd!!

@Staff: is possible to see another statistic in the herald with only the characters lvl 50? It would be a better info imho

I started on uthgard playing Albion some 1.5-2 yrs ago and left uthgard for a few months before returning as a mid player. The main reason I left was the lack of community and friendly people... Everyone seemed to have a big ego and it was next to impossible to get a group. I found mid to be much different and it's only now after some time that I realized it had nothing to do with the population of each realm as I once thought. Reap what you sow I suppose and I'm sure not all Albs are guilty of this.

As for Albs lack of success lately - has nothin to do with lack of classes/wizards/aoe... The need for that is new since the change to keep raiding.

someone said here already the tables will turn and things will change. I know of a handful of mids gone alb to try and cause change.

Aye, the biggest things that hurt Albion were just that there more established guilds and leaders of their realm moved on to other games or other realms. Has nothing at all to do with class problems. As I pointed out allready above, Albion was the top dog on this server for a very long time and that was with the same classes that they have access to now.

Cruell wrote:A perfect example of this was the other day at Fens. Hibs where attacking Fens and mids where defending the tower. So we went to get in the fight and hit the Hibs from behind, we where holding the door fine and would have eventualy killed the hibs between us and the mids in the tower. BUT guess what a bunch of mids suddenly attack us hitting our support and the hibs pushed us at the same time and we all died then the hibs killed all the mids and took fens. But I guess the mids where just happy they got to team up on us with the hibs again.

Hmmm you complain about being sandwiched. . . when albs were also sandwiching hibs in the event of them mids... well they are stupid for not allowing albs to wear down us hibs, but really your being hypocritical in complaining about sandwiching when you do same thing.

Frankly I've seen all 3 realms in rvr gang up on one another... happens all the time in bg's when 1 realm is killing everything.

To finish i think that if you play in one realm a majority of the time you feel like only your realm is the one getting ganked (i know thats how i feel... albs and mids always ganging me..) but i think thats because i dont play from the POV of albs or mids that prolly have the same kinds of things happening to them too.

Ok since albs are not in PvP i expected them to do PvE, but if i look into housing they even dont do that
Respecs 4p+ wtf, no pots to buy WTFWTWF?
Pretty hard to do RvR on alb then, since u cant respec ur chars and u ve to craft pots on ur own, which is just wasted time.

holsten-knight wrote:all you need is a brainalb

Albs always needed that to think

This is the issue. Your brainbugs have left you albs. Someone needs to step up and become a brainalb. Then once again you will swarm with passion.

I ask me then where are our brainmids? Since Holsten left to GW2 it seems to be noone who can lead a real big Zerg or RelicRaid.