ForumRemoval of guardtasks.
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DaoC lives from the variety what you can do. Zerging,Solo,8vs8,Duo,Smallmen, Attack Keeps/Defend keeps...and yes all is necessary to Help your realm isn´t it?
So you can discuss this Thread over and over or you just play and do that what you enjoy! Somewhere is a place where you can do this... |
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not for long, they keep trying to take all action to emain and ONLY emain...this lasts times thx to Cruell and other albs, and sure each realm has their zerg leaders is possible to find this events out of emain but...what happen with other types of grps/action? solos...smallman...8vs8 soon there will be only emain as option because all this changes and all this emainsick/rpshungry ppl think is where ppl MUST go  It's the thrill of the chase
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I love you too alanya, but i really i dont see the point about "skill" in killing a sb with mos5 ranger and adding every fight on line of sight, or most bad: zerging in amg with 10-12 friends rangers ganking solos... so well nice skill you too sweety!  Anyway, killing 1 of a duo/trio is not easy (visible), IF they have some (working) brain! Ps. i'll tell soramaro your salute, but atm he's playing gw2  Edit: To stay in topic: At my point of view the fade of the reward of the guard tasks should start from 5L0 not from 4L0, and as someone has already said before me: - If there is a tasker, a taskerhunter will appear (theres lots of ppl like me who loves to hunt taskers) - You can task while looking for taskers or...kill the taskerhunter that try to kill you. So it's a feature that shouldnt be removed. Last edited by Caemma on Sep 24, 2012 14:27, edited 3 times in total.
There was a time when Uthgard 1.0 existed and maaaany toons and arrpees arose... but now:
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Before the topic strays to "player X adds and player Y zergs while player Z has no skill", I'd like to remind you that this thread is exclusively about the diminishing bonus on guard tasks and the repercussions caused by that.
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How in the hell does this change force people to go to Emain? Prove your point, dont just throw out random attacks because you dont like a change!! The fact is that this changes NOTHING for the majority of players on this server. If anything it promotes more action in other realms. Now, when you see a fire on a keep on the herald you can figure you have time to put a counter group together and get there before they take the keep. Before, people usually assumed 90% of the time it was a group of taskers and didnt even bother. Low RR's CAN STILL TASK SO QUIT ALL THE QQ'ING!!! The only people that have a right to be upset about this change are players that are higher then 7L0 and like to task alot. If you are not that player then there is no reason for you to cry about this. If you are a player higher then 7L0 and enjoys tasking, then I say to you that you can still task at a greatly diminished return, you can always join the group/zerg action, OR you can always go and form a keep take group and take all the keeps you can to earn some RP's. The comments like the one above I quoted are the ones that bother me the most. These are people that dont even think before they come on here and spout their vitriol. I would also like to know about your experiences in frontier RvR prior to this change Ilerget? Not what you did on live, but on this server. How much did you actually participate in frontier RvR before this change? How about instead of QQ'ing about the few minor problems this change has created and instead focus on the many good things this has fixxed. If your biggest complaint about this is that now its a zerg fest everywhere then I say this was a great change. Zacknafein Do'Urden- lvl 50 Ranger- 10L1
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Agreed. I'm sick of the "You must RvR in Emain, always" mentality. That's not how this game was designed. It was the RvR variety that made this game fun and exciting to play. Now, yes, I think the keep takes bonus is a cool idea, but why nerf the tasking itself? Some people may not always want to run around taking keeps. They might also be soloers, or not have a lot of time to play, and if they prefer to task then why penalize them? |
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Sorry, the game wasnt designed for get rr11 with task. If you want to solo with not a lot of time to play, go amg, you are almost sure to get an inc. Or dont solo, and join the new daily zerg fighting at the keeps 2012:<@[Uth]Abydos> If we don't have SI by the end of the year, Im fairly certain I wont be a GM anymore :-p
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"Sorry, the game wasnt designed for get rr11 with task. If you want to solo with not a lot of time to play, go amg, you are almost sure to get an inc. Or dont solo, and join the new daily zerg fighting at the keeps"
Was the game designed to get RR11 camping AMG? You have blinders on and really cant understand the plight of NA players can you? So your simple minded solution is... if you are solo and don't have much time just go to AMG where you will "surely" get inc. And if you are not solo just join the "new daily zerg" at keeps. Alanya... The zerg fighting can probably be sustained by the European population alone and this past weekend we all saw people from across the globe zerg because most people don't work on weekends here in NA. Again this comes back to accommodating NA players. There will be no zerging come 7PM EDT and beyond. Each realm probably can barely field a decent "balanced" full group at this time and I'll bet each realm sometimes can NOT field a bad group let alone one with tools to handle inc or do well. Nerfing guard tasks removed a viable option for people of all RR's in all realms. And I hate to be Mr. Obvious, but some of the loudest voices in this thread are people who played, or still play, stealther's who camp AMG 90% of the time and then moan about people not feeding you rp's there. All you people seem to want is for solo and small man to roam near AMG like fish in a barrel. I really hope this change works out I really do, I just think based on NA population coupled with the severe lack of support in Alb where I play and the non-desire for people (guildies) to reroll toons or realms could have a negative effect. The last thing this server needs are fewer people playing. |
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How does this limit you at all? For example, you are RR5L9 and can still do solo and group gaurd tasks and get a decent return back. The only people this will effect are people that are RR7-8L+ that are wanting to do tasks all night. For those people they will have to adjust and either take keeps or go out and actually do PvP to gain RP's. Also, make no doubts about it, this game was never designed for people to get high RR's by tasking. It was never designed for gamers that were limited on time either. Hell, tasks were never even implemented when I played on live. That was after Catacombs came out which is well past this patch limit. So be happy you even have tasks. One more quick thing, why does this change MAKE you go to Emain as opposed to other realms? Is there no longer keeps to be taken in Alb or Mid frontiers? Please show me a reason why this change "makes" people focus on Emain? People go to Emain because that is where players go. I also answered you in another thread as to why people prefer Emain instead of Hadrians Wall an Odins Gate. Lets not act like before this change there was tons of action in those zones and since this changed the action in those zones has been nothing. Last edited by RonELuvv on Sep 24, 2012 23:15, edited 1 time in total.
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Hendak, I understand where you are coming from and I have even agrued on the side of gaurdtasks before for the exact same reason (viewtopic.php?f=32&t=26541). The problem is that people were not using gaurd tasks to get some rp's when things were slow. They were avoiding any sort of actual PvP or anything that even benefitted their realm to do tasks instead. Now, people at American times were complaining because there was never anyone to fight. The reason was because everyone was running around tasking. Tasks, in my opinion, were made for people to be able to get some realm points and some RR's when they were lower RR and couldnt solo or find a group. People then found out that they could get more rp's during American Prime Time by tasking all night rather then doing actual PvP or RvR. I will also repeat myself for the hundreth time on this, TASKS ARE NOT REMOVED FOR EVERYONE!!! They are only reduced in the rp reward for those people that are 7-8L0 or higher. Remember that you are also saying that the population during American time is to low. Well, this change may actually get more people out in doing actual PvP instead of tasking. For those that still want to task that are over RR7, they can do take keeps instead. How is this a problem? I am a North American player and I've been here for going on almost 3 years. I do play a stealther as my main but I also play other toons. I could care less what the population in "Emain" is. I want more people out in ALL the RvR zones. I also want people to earn REALM POINTS by doing things that benefit their realm. Killing Mobs at a keep and leaving the keep open does nothing to benefit your realm. The biggest voice in getting rid of tasks has been Zai and he hates playing stealthers. Also, overall stealthers are probably the biggest abusers of tasking. Any assasin or minstril can task easier then any other class. So unforturnatly your comment about stealthers being 90% of the people opposed to this just so we can get more people to come to Emain is just wrong. Nothing in this change makes anyone have to go to Emain. I also bet more stealthers are upset with this change then visi toons are. Last edited by RonELuvv on Sep 24, 2012 23:18, edited 1 time in total.
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I just looked and according to this webpage (http://darkageofcamelot.com/content/patch-notes) under patch 1.75A is when missions were implemented. That is well past the 1.69 patch limit we are looking at and well into the NF system and even past the introduction to Catacombs. So once again, be lucky that Uthgard even has these implemented.
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Ron please don't misquote me.
What I said was it seems 90% of the stealthers "posting in this thread" are being incredibly vocal about how great this change is, calling out people or guilds or providing childish garbage like TROLOLOL. Should be pretty easy to figure out who they are. And ok 90% might have been a bit off base... let's say 50% shall we? It's hard to take anything serious when people post crap like that. Weren't you (and QQ iirc) both pretty blunt in recent days about how it sucks "having to run around to look for people (aka taskers)" and now say you want people out in all three realms? It sure sounds like you want people to come to Emain but to appease/safe face you mention its fine to be in any of the frontier zones. And bumping a 4 month old "anti-tasking" post? Really? Are you a Politician irl? It sounds like you have makings to be one  Just saying.... |
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I want more people out in the frontiers. I will modify my play style to make it work with whatever happens. I just want more people out in the frontiers doing RvR or rather PvP. That is all I have ever asked for. I believe this allows for that more. So far its proven true. Time will tell if it lasts or if its just a new fad or if it will be exploited.
I was bringing up the post to show more arguments for and against. I was all for people being able to do tasks. I just thought that tasks alone and especially at higher RR needed to be keep take tasks since they induce more action and are more RvR oriented since you are actually benefitting your realm by opening DF. |
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Sorry, but you can compete fine at RR5+ in RvR. My RR4l5 theurg runs solo in emain, an while I die more than I kill, I still get rp's. At RR8, after doing grd tasks, you will die just as much. Difference is, you will be even more frustrated, and after RR no longer being an excuse, you will find another one (group composition, skill of group-mates etc...). And mainly, it will NOT make you do more PvP, it will just be another frustration that will push you away from RvR. If you bite down your tongue, and go out and die die, kill, die die... you will actualy slowly see your skill improving, and then win fights vs. higher RR's. I've made a high RR sb purge/Vanish, and if I had been a little wiser, I would also have won, but it became a draw instead. This was a fight that started at 0 range, and a good sb, so odds were against me. Albion and having fun
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^^ No truer words were said!! People against tasking == people who camp Emain AMG and want more inc. |
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