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ZaiQQ
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Postby ZaiQQ » Sep 08, 2012 05:43

to splitted action >.<
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Postby Salandril » Sep 09, 2012 22:38

Todays Bloody Sunday was fun. We had some good fights against the 3 fgm who came to def Fensa.
They also should have earned some rps.
Donnu why Mids had to bring 40 ppl to kill action but thats something u have to get used to on this server^^

I feel a little bit sorry for the 1 fgh who seemed to be always in the wrong place at the wrong time :wink:

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Postby Kerw » Sep 10, 2012 15:59

Salandril wrote:[...] Donnu why Mids had to bring 40 ppl to kill action but thats something u have to get used to on this server^^ [...]

It was fun and a nice keep fight at fensa. However, the 40 Mids did not come with the intention to kill action but to have fun. In fact everyone who was idling in Svasud eventually showed up at fensa after 20 min of killspam ;). Also, the some of the 3 midgrps running around also wiped at least once against the albs and had a strong motivation to come back.
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Postby Jarqo » Sep 10, 2012 16:04

Yeah like this motivation: fga killed us brink 1 more fg !
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Postby Spivo » Sep 10, 2012 16:17

Kerw wrote:However, the 40 Mids did not come with the intention to kill action but to have fun. In fact everyone who was idling in Svasud eventually showed up at fensa after 20 min of killspam ;).


I understand that it's kinda hard to select which mids doesn't get to go to Fens, and who gets to stay: "10 people needs to leave Fens, or albs will leave!".
But I also hope that mids understand why the action suddenly stops.

Mids are like a group of people stranded in a desert with 1 water flask to share. It understandable everyone wants to drink, but it should also be clear to them why they suddenly have no more water :)


I do also find it kinda hard to believe no one in alliance/broad said something close to: "Albs at Fens, come help retake!".

Like I said, I understand that you can't make people not come and "drink" from the rp-well, but in turn I hope they understand that it dries up when they don't adjust their numbers a bit.
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Postby Cruell » Sep 10, 2012 17:05

well I think it was a blast and am completely happy with the way it all turned out.

I think after reading IRC after we stopped that hibs hit the mid relic. is this true ?
if so it certainly explains the rapid increase in numbers of mids at Fens. But I have no problem with how many mids came to take Fens back because thats what it was all about, the main problem for Albion is that we dont have the proper classes to successfully defend a keep.
We need more ice wizzy's and wizzys in general, we really lack AOE and mids have a ton of it. This is what makes it so hard for us in defense.

right now we actually do better outside the keeps but when your out numbered 2-1 you have to try and defend the keep and hope to kill a few before you lose. Which is what we tried but all the Mid AoE pretty much owned us.

all in all we had 3 groups of albs out for RvR and that was a success and I hope we can keep growing this and maybe if we can get some more wizzy's leveled up for this rvr event we can do better defending.

We also need someone to take the lead and devolpe a solid stealther group for us, a few scouts assisting would really help during a defense and some SB's working like assassins on our sortes out of the tower would be a big help also.

good fun and I hope we continue to do this.
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Postby Kerw » Sep 10, 2012 17:09

Jarqo wrote:Yeah like this motivation: fga killed us brink 1 more fg !


Thank you for your lurid, yet ill-conceived comment. Although I consider this valid reasoning the situation slightly differed yesterday evening. Altogether there were about 2.5 grps mids in the mid frontier. They were not sticked, but obviously close as everybody was looking for the albs at fensa. The albs on the other hand were ~1.5 grps and killed probably most of the mids at least once as they were scattered around Uppland. Of course everybody who was killed previously returned to seek revenge. After a few open field fights everything piled up at Fensa. Looks fun to me.

Spivo wrote:[...]I do also find it kinda hard to believe no one in alliance/broad said something close to: "Albs at Fens, come help retake!".[...]


Of course there were reports about you. Maybe it was enough to attract the first fgm, but at least after the first massive killspam there was no need for further advertisement. Moreover you should be aware that the reliability of battleinformation can be considered as very low. The info on quantity ranged from 1fga to 3fga. There is really nothing to complain about, since you got exactly what you had to expect. Fights for fensa, renaris, ailinne always end up in huge counterzergs if you've been a little successfull. So why should you stop running? The 40 mids probably didn't end up in OG to block the amg.
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Postby RonELuvv » Sep 10, 2012 21:14

Spivo wrote:Mids are like a group of people stranded in a desert with 1 water flask to share. It understandable everyone wants to drink, but it should also be clear to them why they suddenly have no more water :)



This quote made my day :lol: It's perfect and conveys exactly how I feel about stuff like this. I've actually been on Hib on my ranger, seen 1-2 fg's of Mids roaming around killing solo's in Emain during American Prime Time when 180 people are on. Then I decide to give up since they camp AMG. I log on my hunter and I hear people QQ'ing because there is nobody to fight in Emain. Well no kidding, you killed the action or as the above quote says, you emptied the water flask. Play the "red is dead" and "realm pride" method by all means, but then dont QQ about a lack of action when you are the ones who killed what little action there was.

Also, in answer to whoever asked about the Hibs leading a Relic Raid, yes they did. However, I was told that when the Hib relic raid showed up there was allready ALOT of Mids in the relic keep. Now if I had to guess, I would bet the Hibs were geniuses and actually advertised on broad and /lfg that they were forming a Relic Raid. Then they prolly complained about the fairly obvious xrealming. I agree that most times its not xrealming, but I dont care how prepared you were, there is no way you get 50+ people to a relic keep before a relic raid gets there unless there was some xrealming done. I'm not blaming the Mids, I'm just saying the Hibs should have been more discreet.

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Postby borog » Sep 11, 2012 14:00

especially as in broad on mid there was talk of 3fgh in uppland...

of course its fairly obvious what i s going to happen, so everyone dropped what they were doing and logged their relic defence toons in.

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Postby Jezzmin » Sep 11, 2012 14:15

borog wrote:of course its fairly obvious what i s going to happen, so everyone dropped what they were doing and logged their relic defence toons in.


hmmi wish i had a relic-defense toon...oh wait, a smiter is just pefect for this!

but then again...alb doesnt have relics for longer then 1 week anyway...dunno why, but thats the way it is :)

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Postby Spivo » Sep 11, 2012 14:26

Jezzmin wrote:
borog wrote:of course its fairly obvious what i s going to happen, so everyone dropped what they were doing and logged their relic defence toons in.


hmmi wish i had a relic-defense toon...oh wait, a smiter is just pefect for this!

but then again...alb doesnt have relics for longer then 1 week anyway...dunno why, but thats the way it is :)


As an alb I can give you the answer... albs don't protect their home frontier, basically it's risk-free to task on alb keeps.
Attack a Mid keep and you have 1 fgm's on your neck 15 mins after.

Hibs are a siege realm, so many (played) classes that wrecks havoc in sieges.
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Postby Shafi » Sep 11, 2012 14:27

RonELuvv wrote: Play the "red is dead" and "realm pride" method by all means, but then dont QQ about a lack of action when you are the ones who killed what little action there was.


True enough...
Actually, for all those people who always argue that DAoC was intended to be played that exact way, shouldn't that attitude forbid to complain here and rather celebrate the ultimate victory through having driven all enemies away? :P
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Postby testytesty1234 » Sep 11, 2012 17:37

Wish albs would take the str relics, so hibs can take from them the next day :D
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Postby Spivo » Sep 11, 2012 17:40

testytesty1234 wrote:Wish albs would take the str relics, so hibs can take from them the next day :D


You can't take relics with rangers only.
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Postby Austerim » Sep 11, 2012 19:32

Spivo wrote:
testytesty1234 wrote:Wish albs would take the str relics, so hibs can take from them the next day :D


You can't take relics with rangers only.
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