Akip wrote:its all with mof1 ^^

but you can't get higher than lvl 50 with the spell lvl at least thats what i heared :X

Not my point
I wanted to take a lvl 50 caster, test on a doll using lvl 10 specline spell 20 times.
Then respec to MoF4/5 and using same spell 20 times again.

If MoF does anything near what it should do, the difference should be very clear.

just cast 200 times with mof3 and 200 times without mof..level 1 spell should do...

level 50 caster on level 50 target should have the following resists:

spell-level - resist-rate

50 - 15%
30 - 25%
18 - 31%
1 - 39.5%

that means with mof3 (+17levels to a spell) u have ~9% less resists then without it...so a player with mof3 should have same resist-rate on a level 1 spell as a player without mof and level 18 spell should have....

my cab only has mof1, so i cant test it, but it should be easy to test...besides you can always ask blue, whether the formula is correctly implemented

btw: we're off topic a little

edit: testit in pvp, i.e. vs doll - in rvr resists work different if i remember correct

Jezzmin wrote:btw: we're off topic a little

Just a tiny bit

just had another idea, which makes testing even easier:

level 35 char vs level 50 target (doll)...

spell-level - resist-rate
1 - 103.79%
5 - 101.79%
8 - 100.29%
9 - 99.79%
10 - 99.29%
11 - 98.79%

i dunno how uth rounds resist-rates (imho blue said, that while live rounds down always, uth rounds "real") but this means, that a level 10 spell should NOT get through a single time as 35vs50...with mof1 however it should have a resist-rate of ~45%, which is the cap...take care to use a dd-spell, as debuffs and stuff might work differently...

so IF you have a character, that is level 35 and has mof1, use a level 7 or 8 spell on a level 50 doll...if the spell gets through: tadaaa, mof working! - if not: make a bug report, posting logs

guess i was wrong

Akip wrote:its a torture to count all that crap with notepad++ but i failed at installing a parser from google :X
anyone has a better tool maybe?

The opposite. Notepad++ is perfect for this job. I often use it to count lines which contain a certain string. Its also nice to be able to use regular expressions.

Just as a side note ofc

is it normal to have around 18% resist rate vs a lvl 50 dummy as lvl 50?

Akip wrote:
guess i was wrong

Nice... so my MoF1 is not wasted afterall

Thanks a ton for checking this Akip!

Akip wrote:is it normal to have around 18% resist rate vs a lvl 50 dummy as lvl 50?

Resist rate against level 50 target with level 50 spell in PvE is 15%. With a larger sample you should see it.

Blue wrote:Resist rate against level 50 target with level 50 spell in PvE is 15%. With a larger sample you should see it.

Two questions then :
1. Level 50 Doll near Norht entrance of Camelot is considered as a PvP or a PvE target ? I suppose it's a pvp target, i hope ^^
2. What should be the PvP base resist rate for a level 50 spell on level 50 target, cast by a lvl 50 caster ?

Jezzmin wrote:just cast 200 times with mof3 and 200 times without mof..level 1 spell should do...
(...)
my cab only has mof1

With 33+3 spirit and MoF 3, on the level 50 doll, i tested my level 33 body debuff.
111 casts
94 success
17 resists

That's exactly 15% resist rate. Since MoF 3 give a +17 levels bonus, it seems to work as intendend.

Do not hesitate to test it with MoF1 to check if you have a larger number of resist.

[edit] Did another test with MoF 3 and my lvl 24 spirit debuff
137 casts
110 success
27 resists

That's a 19,7 % resists.
Theory : level 24 spell, + 17 by mof 3 -> lvl 41. So Resist rate should be 15 + (50-41)*0,5 = 19,5%
Again, MoF seems to work as intendend on Uthgard

I'm happy to see that my MoF 3 is not useless

Hu, i tested lvl 40 root... 12% resist rate.
40 -> 33 -> 7 level, 3.5% resist... maybe it's not working finally... or i need more tests... plz help

Dolls are PvE and not players. Against players the flat resist rate is 12%.

Blue wrote:Dolls are PvE and not players. Against players the flat resist rate is 12%.

flat 12% with or without MoF?

I knew that pvp has 12% (thought 12.5?) resist-rate, but is it influenced by MoF?

Okay, guess we need another test on live human subjects, and not just some test doll

and we need the same tests on live ...once with mof0 and then with mof5...best to use level 50 vs level 50 target using level 1 spell or something...should be a DD, as u can never be sure how debuffs or cc works with resists

My original point was, that there was no reason to test it on Live for two reasons:

1) Spell resist rates are still missing to be fully mapped and corrected, and until this is done, there is really little point in working on how MoF should work in details.

2) Main thing was to test IF MoF did something here, and as it looks now, it does do something, but so far we've only tested if it affects PvE and not PvP.