the violation of the rules : §3.3 Cooperation between players and realms : "Deliberate cooperation between players of different realms is forbidden. [...]"

How to proof he violation of this rules when it's happen (and when you are a victime too) ?

Thx

you can't
except you are in the same teamspeak and record that they said "lets kill feuille together hand in hand"
or write accidently in uthgard irc the same.

so this rule is lol

well but still its needed in the rules to show that its illegal + gms have ways to prove it i guess

I think its nearly impossible for a player to proove this, but I believe if GMs are watching situations ehere, for example, 2 Groups of 2 realms are consequently killig a group of the 3rd realm, leaving themselves in peace, or, for 2nd example one realm member is a tolerated adder to a group of another realm, this will not stay unpunished.

I for myself havent watched such situations myself yet, but heard of one or two cases where bans have been applied.

Otherwise, if at a one vs one a third member of the third realm is watching the fight, waiting for one loosing and then decides to walk away, waiting for the winner to regenerate from his wounds, this is no cooperation, only fair in my oppinion, and i think here GMs will most of the time think this aswell.

There´s several things happening nowadays @AMG almost 24/7 where no punishment is going to happen. Sadly it looks like GMs don´t care about that, see:

§3.2 Crossrealming – playing in different realms
It is not forbidden to play characters in different realms. There is no restriction. However it is strictly prohibited to use characters from different realms for espionage. This includes the login in different realms to gain informations, especially about the location of characters of a realm and their actions – to support or organize the RvR in another realm.

§3.3 Cooperation between players and realms
Deliberate cooperation between players of different realms is forbidden. The server/game concept states that the realms are in a never ending war against each other and there shall be no exception from this situation. Unintended cooperation between players (example: three players of different realms fighting) is of course allowed. As soon as players or groups of different realms start to organize their fighting, it becomes a rule violation.

§3.4 Fights between players of different realms – arranged duels
Arranged duels between players of different realms are not allowed. The players are not allowed to organize or arrange their fighting. This is realmpoint-farming and is strictly prohibited.

So many times it happens that there´s even each realms rezzers in effect, getting ignored by enemies ... you´ll have more risk getting banned for -bad language- in chat than farming RPS formal @AMG. No need to figure out where this behaviour is gonna lead to ...

They do sth, every 6Month they ban 4-5 AMG Camper for 2 days If that happens, you ve to join the IRC Party, great fun every time

if the irc-party starts be sure to troll gm's and the banned people and fan the fire

Feuille wrote:the violation of the rules : §3.3 Cooperation between players and realms : "Deliberate cooperation between players of different realms is forbidden. [...]"

How to proof he violation of this rules when it's happen (and when you are a victime too) ?

Thx

If any gm's present:
Ask to come & look, they can monitor without being seen and will take appropriate action if your claim is correct.

If no gm's present:

Try frapsing it, 2 or 3 times in a row, then link it to the gms in mail. The reason why you need to die so much is to prove to the gm's it wasn't an accident or that both players were scared to engage each other. This might happen once, but after the third time it is quite crystal clear this is not the case. Also don't cut & edit to downsize just lower the quality of recording instead to be certain that it won't get dropped by the gm as "fake".

We have discussed this internally and all agreed upon less interference with player decisions, which means this ban has been revoked.
However these players did not follow a GMs directions which still means a 3 day ban that expires on 22.04.2012 16:55:06 CET

For further notice: This decision on less interference means the following:

a. A player can sit next to a realm enemy if he chooses to.
b. A player can choose not to attack a player if he chooses to.
c. Arranged fights are not allowed, especially not in low activity areas
d. Queue like situations where people line up waiting to fight is not allowed

viewtopic.php?f=44&t=26431

In addition to the above, if you want to kill something and your group says not to, you can kill it. No one can forbid you from attacking a realm enemy. Players cannot bully you into not killing realm enemies.

Abydos wrote:if you want to kill something and your group says not to, you can kill it

beware of the consequences than though
disband + ban from the rvr action most likely

Several times i have been out at amg per player callgm's and taken a look around and watch. If things start to begin to look a little to carebaearish or when rezzers start to rerezz players over and over i'll send out emotes to let players know i'm watching the happenings. and if players continue or just start to que up i will warn all in the area visibly.


but most disperse and continue on there way and usually no ban action is needed, but more often or not a full group of some realm comes in and cleans out the other 2 realms ^^

Abydos wrote:

We have discussed this internally and all agreed upon less interference with player decisions, which means this ban has been revoked.
However these players did not follow a GMs directions which still means a 3 day ban that expires on 22.04.2012 16:55:06 CET

For further notice: This decision on less interference means the following:

a. A player can sit next to a realm enemy if he chooses to.
b. A player can choose not to attack a player if he chooses to.
c. Arranged fights are not allowed, especially not in low activity areas
d. Queue like situations where people line up waiting to fight is not allowed

viewtopic.php?f=44&t=26431

In addition to the above, if you want to kill something and your group says not to, you can kill it. No one can forbid you from attacking a realm enemy. Players cannot bully you into not killing realm enemies.

§3.3 Cooperation between players and realms
Deliberate cooperation between players of different realms is forbidden. The server/game concept states that the realms are in a never ending war against each other and there shall be no exception from this situation. Unintended cooperation between players (example: three players of different realms fighting) is of course allowed. As soon as players or groups of different realms start to organize their fighting, it becomes a rule violation.

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http://uthgard.net/en/rules[/url]

a. A player can sit next to a realm enemy if he chooses to.
b. A player can choose not to attack a player if he chooses to.

Shouldn't this be borderline already if not over the border? It seems strange that 2 people being part in never ending war can come together & sit down for a pick nic & a cup of afternoon tea.

But don't mind me though, as long as this "dueling" approval stands, is how long you can see me do /bow in the low hours with my RR4 against RR10 and if lucky win every 4 fights.

If you are gm just kill add players at amg who allying or rezzing nonstop death ppls or remove 10k rps

QQ