honestly its a huge disadvance for Hibernia. Cause its only way u get rvr spots like amg or emain as solo or smallman or fg. Same mistake was made on Live Severs same ,and after many years ppl saw,that mostly rvr focus on few spot, nf was the solution. That kind of maps only can work for servers 2000+ maybe. So there should be som custom changes which would balance it . I dont ofc want NF back !!!. But some creative solution could be that every week one of the realm maps get slighty rvr bonus,so everyweek hr user will change .

ppl could see under Bonus which map this or that week has the bonus,that way maybe it would be a motivation to use all 3 maps.

Ofc any other good idea welcome.

port to druim cain > use that horse route

tajendi wrote:Same mistake was made on Live Severs same

There was no horse route on live servers.

Lifioch wrote:port to druim cain > use that horse route

People camp that one too.

daoc is no solo game

People camp AMG and as an Alb you have no where to go unless you can create a group that is able to kill them, which can be hard during low population times. ALL realms suffer similiar problems whether its in their own frontier or simply trying to get passed AMG or MMG. Sorry hibs are not alone on this and it is part of the game.

ALL realms suffer similiar problems whether its in their own frontier or simply trying to get passed AMG or MMG. Sorry hibs are not alone on this and it is part of the game.

haha, good one .-D. Hib was always the primary rvr zone in classic, dunno why it happened, bad tongues said Albs only know the way to Hib amg ,-). The other realm frontiers are wasted, there are only very few players that camp the gates/horseroutes.

Blue is right, there were no "horse" routes on live server it was just similiar because you got farmed while running to amg/mmg as Hib with hastener speed if you were so crazy to run on the middle of the street. ( At the start of daoc there were even no hasteners)

Take hasteners and run your own ways to the keeps or don `r ride alone. It sucks, but there is no other choice to avoid this horseroute gank problem if you wanna go emain.

Ok another choice would be maybe the rvr map mix of old frontiers and new frontiers many players prefer, but that will never happen.

tajendi wrote:solution could be that every week one of the realm maps get slighty rvr bonus,so everyweek hr user will change .

tbh, not a bad idea ^^

tajendi wrote:solution could be that every week one of the realm maps get slighty rvr bonus,so everyweek hr user will change .

I like this idea, it would be nice to have a bit of variation.

I think Emain became the frontier of choice because it's a very plain open setting, there are few mobs in the way etc.

adjuchas_brokk wrote:I think Emain became the frontier of choice because it's a very plain open setting, there are few mobs in the way etc.

When I played on live, my GM (Tonka, alb/broceliande) used to say that:
- Emain was like easy mode
- Odin was like medium mode
- Hadrian was like hard mode

I pretty agree this point of view, as Hadrian and Pennine where really funny places to RvR. It requires another dimension in the strategy which is the field.

Hadrian's Wall is the worst zone ever.

Austerim wrote:Hadrian's Wall is the worst zone ever.

no its pennine...

First off, I play on Hibernia and I know how bad a HR camper can ruin a night for a player. It sucks, but to be completely fair Albion is even at a worse situation. They have ONE way threw AMG and every stealther and visi camps it religously. At least on Hibernia we have 2 ways to go. Yes, sometimes they are both camped but even then you can always run out manually and take a back route to get to Emain. As an Alb they HAVE to go threw that gate at AMG at some point, and about 90% of the time there will be somebody from Hib or Mid waiting for them, often times its me

Also, making the RP bonus to a different zone I doubt will have any effect on the main RvR zone used. People go to emain because you dont have the hills of Albion giving LoS issues and you have less trees obscuring the views that Mid frontier offers. This is why people go there. Well that and the fact that has always been the main zone even back on live. Giving a slight bonus to another zone will not suddenly make HR campers go to another place. If you really wanted to make HR campers farm other areas then they need to really bump up drops in frontier farming zones. The only time I have ever seen effective HR camping in the Alb frontier was when Ellyls had the bugged drop rate. People went to those Ellyl's like crazy, even if they were getting killed after only killing a handful of Ellyls because the money was so good.

Cadam wrote:

Austerim wrote:Hadrian's Wall is the worst zone ever.

no its pennine...

The whole Albion frontier zone I should've said.

RonELuvv wrote:If you really wanted to make HR campers farm other areas then they need to really bump up drops in frontier farming zones. The only time I have ever seen effective HR camping in the Alb frontier was when Ellyls had the bugged drop rate. People went to those Ellyl's like crazy, even if they were getting killed after only killing a handful of Ellyls because the money was so good.

I wonder where Albs even make money now a days aside from rvr/tasks. Those Ellylls were awesome solo/duo farming with many good times battling any mid/hib(s) that would come by. The gold from salvage/junk sell was worth getting ganked as well. It's too bad they don't have incentive to farm the frontier anymore.