borog wrote:You dont get a respec for exploiting a bug

if the main Style off a class is buggy over years u can't talk about a bug or an exploitation if someone uses it ...
a bug over years is an unintended feature in my opinion- and this feature is gone now - so u should get the choice to go to zerger e.g.

well Diablo (Ori) states that the PA fix has actually increased PA damage for High CS specced assassins. Take that in conjunction with the fact that this formula change is not a nerf but a fix, then i really doubt any respecs would be handed out.

Maybe it would be "nice" for public relations to give one so that the stealthers can adjust their CS lines accordingly, but i don't see it as something they have to do.

No respecs will be handed out for bugfixes.

borog wrote:well Diablo (Ori) states that the PA fix has actually increased PA damage for High CS specced assassins.

u can't spec SB or NS like an Infi - they got 453 skillpoints less - the classic cry to the classic problem

well no im sure you can't but forgive me for not being in the *know* but what is wrong with this R5 SB spec?

Axe/Sword: 35
Stealth: 35 (no AT)
Envenom: 35
CS: 50

with no AT you have 92 point left, but with AT you got 169.

doesn't this cover the basics that a Crit spec SB should have?

5-spec SB's were supposed to be harder to spec on classic, but on Uth they appear to be the norm.

no matter if the 2h dmg is life like - but on Uthgard u also have to skill LA
not every change mystic made was bad and lead to worth balance
10 years ago there had been a rumor about a Teamlead Infi - because off the Infi Skillpoints I think this was true

only if you intend to use left axe, on classic there were plenty on 2handed critblades running about one-shotting casters

i think other mechanics are also affecting ppe in other ways, like 2hand damage and def pen.

anyway, with full AT you could do this:

Axe, Stealth and Envenom 35
LA 29
CS 44

isn't 44 CS optimal for Crit SB's anyway?

By now I think more about
44 LA
25 CS (22 ohne AT)
36 Axe
36 Poison
36 Stealth
Most of the Time your oponent is a stealther and not a caster - with a 2h (pentrationrate,speed, etc.) Spec u are just a nice snack for them

yes for a thid spec lvl 49, but for lvl 50 R5 you would be better getting:

35 weapon,
39 Laxe (for stun)
34 CS (for Stun)
35 Stealth (composite 50)
35 envenom (composite 50)

with 70 whole points to spend on what you want. You have to AT to at least level 19 to get this. but it looks perfectly reasonable to me for the 5 spec you want.

for Critblade though, id still go with my first suggestion and use PA/CD/SS chain then Garrote|AH for damage together with lifebane.

edit

Most of the Time your oponent is a stealther and not a caster - with a 2h (pentrationrate,speed, etc.) Spec u are just a nice snack for them

if you hang out at AMG yes.

borog wrote:well no im sure you can't but forgive me for not being in the *know* but what is wrong with this R5 SB spec?

Axe/Sword: 35
Stealth: 35 (no AT)
Envenom: 35
CS: 50

with no AT you have 92 point left, but with AT you got 169.

doesn't this cover the basics that a Crit spec SB should have?

You would want to have 39 LA or 39 Sword for the off-evade stun (second in chain, but that is mid for you...).

The biggest problem is however no points into LA.
Unlike CD/DW where points into their respectable lines help with more often hits and style damage, points into LA is a lot more important.
LA hits 100%, and general damage is scaled directly off level.

To put it simply:
If you have 39+15 CS and 39+15 LA you will outdamage a 50+15 CS and 1+15 LA character by miles on every single hit

(However if you only used a 2h weapon this would not be the case.)

Beelittle wrote:

borog wrote:well Diablo (Ori) states that the PA fix has actually increased PA damage for High CS specced assassins.

u can't spec SB or NS like an Infi - they got 453 skillpoints less - the classic cry to the classic problem

U can, but at high rr

I dont know why ppl want pa at low rr, you wont inc most of tank because no purge3, so stun = death generally, and you rarely land pa on another stealther. Mid stealthers should go at low rr for 50 la, 36 swrd or axe, 36 envenom and 36 stealth. the 5 spec is so ****** and ur dmg will be so low, that mostly you will be a meat for everyone

bump

bump not for the offtopic trashtalk but for the lvl 50 respecs