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Oswaldo
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by Oswaldo » Jun 12, 2012 23:07
"Hi, playing my solo infi, playing solo like i did with sb, i like fair 1v1. But do i have to tell ennemy if im going to fight him or not ? I think not at all, 1v1 its still rvr, and it shouldnt be prepared. Watch the video ( only 30 second ) and watch the reaction of the guy."
ahahahhahahaha
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Melodexx
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by Melodexx » Jun 12, 2012 23:27
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Ino
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by Ino » Jun 13, 2012 00:02
Oswaldo wrote:"Hi, playing my solo infi, playing solo like i did with sb, i like fair 1v1. But do i have to tell ennemy if im going to fight him or not ? I think not at all, 1v1 its still rvr, and it shouldnt be prepared. Watch the video ( only 30 second ) and watch the reaction of the guy."
ahahahhahahaha
Where is the amg-police when its needed?"
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HulkGris
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by HulkGris » Jun 13, 2012 01:21
Orihiime wrote:I never said i dont bow or what, i do it sometime, but vs a visible that is higher rr than me, if i /bow, he will just know im here, and will just do everything he can for avoid the pa i want to land, if he dont know im here, he is just less vigilant. Well Trishin i know, but sometime is hard to stay calm when you see how ppl can be idiot
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Badtzmaru
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by Badtzmaru » Jun 13, 2012 01:59
Clarifying that in my opinion, we are not talking about rvr (impossible and boring if conducted in a permanent serius way), but about people looking for fun (nothing strange in a game) through game mechanisms, it's obvious that for some people this fun research lead to avoiding taking too much advantage vs the enemies: e.g. you are 1, we are 8, you are automatically dead, no fun for you, no fun for us (but rps  ). Thus, it's nothing strange seeing people looking for real challenging fights (born by randomness, and not by arrangement, something strictly forbidden). While among not stealthing classes, a mutual /bow might be a form of courtesy, it cannot be pretended however. It cannot be pretended expecially from classes that have into the surprice factor, part of their potential. For this reason i think that Roundhouse did wrong pretending it. But i also think that his reaction was born from the fact that he thought being safe going afk for some seconds. Maybe Ori could have been a bit more understanding of his feelings, conceding him 5 minutes to vent his anger and avoinding to bring the issue at the attention of the whole forum 
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Orihiime
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by Orihiime » Jun 13, 2012 02:07
Badtzmaru wrote:Clarifying that in my opinion, we are not talking about rvr (impossible and boring if conducted in a permanent serius way), but about people looking for fun (nothing strange in a game) through game mechanisms, it's obvious that for some people this fun research lead to avoiding taking too much advantage vs the enemies: e.g. you are 1, we are 8, you are automatically dead, no fun for you, no fun for us (but rps  ). Thus, it's nothing strange seeing people looking for real challenging fights (born by randomness, and not by arrangement, something strictly forbidden). While among not stealthing classes, a mutual /bow might be a form of courtesy, it cannot be pretended however. It cannot be pretended expecially from classes that have into the surprice factor, part of their potential. For this reason i think that Roundhouse did wrong pretending it. But i also think that his reaction was born from the fact that he thought being safe going afk for some seconds. Maybe Ori could have been a bit more understanding of his feelings, conceding him 5 minutes to vent his anger and avoinding to bring the issue at the attention of the whole forum 
The thing that i have bring is that even now when you inc someone in 1V1, if you dont bow him before, you get flamed for no reason, lol. Soon you will have to unstealth, /bow, and ask a permission if the guy is ready and ok for the fight, or not. Its ridiculous
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Badtzmaru
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by Badtzmaru » Jun 13, 2012 02:31
Orihiime wrote:The thing that i have bring is that even now when you inc someone in 1V1, if you dont bow him before, you get flamed for no reason, lol. Soon you will have to unstealth, /bow, and ask a permission if the guy is ready and ok for the fight, or not. Its ridiculous
I think that reasoning (Round's) is born from anger! I hope that now he would admit that you didn't do anything strange  The main favour you can do to an enemy, is keeping the confrontation open not outumbering him. Pretending more is senseless. It happens that someone gives you also time for preparing for the fight, but that is even more optional, just ignore those silly players that pretend it 
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Mee
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by Mee » Jun 13, 2012 03:07
Orihiime wrote:Badtzmaru wrote:Clarifying that in my opinion, we are not talking about rvr (impossible and boring if conducted in a permanent serius way), but about people looking for fun (nothing strange in a game) through game mechanisms, it's obvious that for some people this fun research lead to avoiding taking too much advantage vs the enemies: e.g. you are 1, we are 8, you are automatically dead, no fun for you, no fun for us (but rps  ). Thus, it's nothing strange seeing people looking for real challenging fights (born by randomness, and not by arrangement, something strictly forbidden). While among not stealthing classes, a mutual /bow might be a form of courtesy, it cannot be pretended however. It cannot be pretended expecially from classes that have into the surprice factor, part of their potential. For this reason i think that Roundhouse did wrong pretending it. But i also think that his reaction was born from the fact that he thought being safe going afk for some seconds. Maybe Ori could have been a bit more understanding of his feelings, conceding him 5 minutes to vent his anger and avoinding to bring the issue at the attention of the whole forum 
The thing that i have bring is that even now when you inc someone in 1V1, if you dont bow him before, you get flamed for no reason, lol. Soon you will have to unstealth, /bow, and ask a permission if the guy is ready and ok for the fight, or not. Its ridiculous
There would have been double flame if RH was infact alt tab and while attacking him Ori got added during his 1v1 
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Hughie
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by Hughie » Jun 13, 2012 03:24
Well many players think they are smt special.Many times rr11+ players were logging on mid to flame or whine to me.Once i got this msg ...WTF?! why do you inc me and you dont bow me before of that,if i want to inc you-he told me-ill atack you first since im stealther.(he was stealthed and i slamed him). Like i need permission from someone to atack.So i answered to him DUDE WHO THE FOCK YOU THINK YOU ARE?Maybe i should put my armor off and sit down next i see you? That player was Muerte If you want to go solo and play alone its your choice if you want to zerg then zerg.You can play like imba Tzaaa does shot and run(btw he told me that im running from him like a chicken and i thank him for that cuz he teached how run but this running doesnt help me vs him cuz i have never killed him,him and Nag)You go afk and you die,someone catch you with your paints down /release and go back if you want.No1 can hold you from doing anything that you want.We got some rules i got nothing against thouse rules but i think that they are written for ppl that cant think and cant understand,so there is someone that is telling them what they can and what they cant do since they cant decide by their own.If youll search deep incide in you tho without trying to be a sneaky egoistic smartass you'll understand what is good and what is not good to do.Either way youll pay for your actions
About adds now.Usually i see thouse who blaim ppl specially on irc for add are thouse who with first chance add you..Usually they dont add but then i see my chatlogs and i see that they casted dot charge on me while i was fighting 1vs1 with someoen else.From other hand I have never seen Arlen for example whining about add or logging on other realm to tell others how good he is or start flaming others on irc even if he got added many times,but many of the players that we MUST bow to (at least they think that we have to do that) have done that,they added they flamed and in the end they ragequit.For me /bow is something like a sign to start a fight it doesnt show any respect if you want you can bow back but dont expect from others to do the same
Im my opinion we just have to enjoy the game and stop telling others how to play or what to do im not saying that we must not give advice to others when we see that others need it.But thouse advices are getting redicilous when ppl start thinking and acting like they are smt special and others are trash only cuz they can move their mouse and press couple of keys on their keyboard
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fiskgrodan
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by fiskgrodan » Jun 13, 2012 03:42
Hughie wrote:Well many players think they are smt special.Many times rr11+ players were logging on mid to flame or whine to me.Once i got this msg ...WTF?! why do you inc me and you dont bow me before of that,if i want to inc you-he told me-ill atack you first since im stealther.(he was stealthed and i slamed him). Like i need permission from someone to atack.So i answered to him DUDE WHO THE FOCK YOU THINK YOU ARE?Maybe i should put my armor off and sit down next i see you? That player was Muerte If you want to go solo and play alone its your choice if you want to zerg then zerg.You can play like imba Tzaaa does shot and run(btw he told me that im running from him like a chicken and i thank him for that cuz he teached how run but this running doesnt help me vs him cuz i have never killed him,him and Nag)You go afk and you die,someone catch you with your paints down /release and go back if you want.No1 can hold you from doing anything that you want.We got some rules i got nothing against thouse rules but i think that they are written for ppl that cant think and cant understand,so there is someone that is telling them what they can and what they cant do since they cant decide by their own.If youll search deep incide in you tho without trying to be a sneaky egoistic smartass you'll understand what is good and what is not good to do.Either way youll pay for your actions
About adds now.Usually i see thouse who blaim ppl specially on irc for add are thouse who with first chance add you..Usually they dont add but then i see my chatlogs and i see that they casted dot charge on me while i was fighting 1vs1 with someoen else.From other hand I have never seen Arlen for example whining about add or logging on other realm to tell others how good he is or start flaming others on irc even if he got added many times,but many of the players that we MUST bow to (at least they think that we have to do that) have done that,they added they flamed and in the end they ragequit.For me /bow is something like a sign to start a fight it doesnt show any respect if you want you can bow back but dont expect from others to do the same
Im my opinion we just have to enjoy the game and stop telling others how to play or what to do im not saying that we must not give advice to others when we see that others need it.But thouse advices are getting redicilous when ppl start thinking and acting like they are smt special and others are trash only cuz they can move their mouse and press couple of keys on their keyboard


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realac0
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by realac0 » Jun 13, 2012 09:48
i think Roundhouse was not afk on this inc, he was moving trying to avoid pa (till 1 second before inc) but, after he got perf'ed, he just don't moved at all and declared he was afk ... he done the same on some other videos i've see (i remember one against rambo).
roundhouse is a good guy, and i think he is really good on 1on1, but on this situation, he should just type /rel, come back, and kill u (if he is able, and i think yes, he is), because flame for get perf'ed w/out bow is really stupid.
i /bow only if i play a visible, on 1on1 , expecially if stealthers, try to inc with pa or crit shot is a must and /bow is not good ^_^
btw gg Ori ^_^
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Fabulabelle
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by Fabulabelle » Jun 13, 2012 09:54
Badtzmaru wrote:Thus, it's nothing strange seeing people looking for real challenging fights (born by randomness, and not by arrangement, something strictly forbidden).
1v1 "fair fight" at amg is the same problem that zerg... People who zerg impose their gamestyle to others by invading Emain. It's a fact and an endless debate between 8 v. 8 and zerg v. anything. But for me, it's the same thing with people who camp amg alone, trying to wait for 1v1 "fair fight" and who yell when they got hurt. Camping amg, the "hub" of prime time rvr, is like imposing a gamestyle to others. And the more crazy thing is that when you have a 1v1 so much expected, you can have QQ if the fight is lost. I just want to say "you want to camp amg? take the risk to die so." You will find people who leave you alone, and it's good for you, but nobody have to do it. Take your responsabilities and assume the risk. Btw, gz Ori, as stealther, you just did your job, nice perf ^^
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feanort
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by feanort » Jun 13, 2012 11:15
AMG PvP gogogogogo hahahahahahahahahah all friendlys for duel LOL gogogoggo pvp in amg!!!! xD
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Amon
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by Amon » Jun 13, 2012 12:03
Hughie wrote:Well many players think they are smt special.Many times rr11+ players were logging on mid to flame or whine to me.Once i got this msg ...WTF?! why do you inc me and you dont bow me before of that,if i want to inc you-he told me-ill atack you first since im stealther.(he was stealthed and i slamed him). Like i need permission from someone to atack.So i answered to him DUDE WHO THE FOCK YOU THINK YOU ARE?Maybe i should put my armor off and sit down next i see you? That player was Muerte If you want to go solo and play alone its your choice if you want to zerg then zerg.You can play like imba Tzaaa does shot and run(btw he told me that im running from him like a chicken and i thank him for that cuz he teached how run but this running doesnt help me vs him cuz i have never killed him,him and Nag)You go afk and you die,someone catch you with your paints down /release and go back if you want.No1 can hold you from doing anything that you want.We got some rules i got nothing against thouse rules but i think that they are written for ppl that cant think and cant understand,so there is someone that is telling them what they can and what they cant do since they cant decide by their own.If youll search deep incide in you tho without trying to be a sneaky egoistic smartass you'll understand what is good and what is not good to do.Either way youll pay for your actions
About adds now.Usually i see thouse who blaim ppl specially on irc for add are thouse who with first chance add you..Usually they dont add but then i see my chatlogs and i see that they casted dot charge on me while i was fighting 1vs1 with someoen else.From other hand I have never seen Arlen for example whining about add or logging on other realm to tell others how good he is or start flaming others on irc even if he got added many times,but many of the players that we MUST bow to (at least they think that we have to do that) have done that,they added they flamed and in the end they ragequit.For me /bow is something like a sign to start a fight it doesnt show any respect if you want you can bow back but dont expect from others to do the same
Im my opinion we just have to enjoy the game and stop telling others how to play or what to do im not saying that we must not give advice to others when we see that others need it.But thouse advices are getting redicilous when ppl start thinking and acting like they are smt special and others are trash only cuz they can move their mouse and press couple of keys on their keyboard
UP and Ori played well that's all 
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Blue
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by Blue » Jun 13, 2012 12:28
I think we need a new rule. Logging to other realms to complain about getting killed should be banned for 1 day.
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience. Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later.
"It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure."
Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."
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