Hey People.
i have experienced for a long time now (since lvl22) that there was something Wrong with the dmg done on a Dark-spec Runemaster. So now im lvl38 and still having the same problem:

as you all know, you get a new spec nuke at lvl 37 (Rune of Shadow) with a Dmg effect on 173,7. dmg (cold)

at lvl38 you get debuff nuke (Munin's Claw) with a dmg effect on 139,3 dmg (cold) (debuff cold -10%)

the Thing is, im in Vanern Swaps killing Mud Crabs (con: Yellow/orange) and on a Yellow Crab they do EXACTLY the same dmg.. How is that even possible with the huge dps differences (look above)? is it a bug? or a nerf on the Runemasters? (the dmg is the same even AFTER i debuffed 1st.. same dmg with both nukes, Before and after debuff)

if anybody know of this Problem or if it's supposed to be like that. please let me know!



Best Regards.
Wantedx

Buffs and debuffs on pets or mobs have nearly no effect at the moment. This is part of the mob damage problems.

well mostly, i wasn't thinking about the debuff dmg.. but how come that the one spell which only has 139,3 dmg does the same dmg as the lvl37 which is A lot more (173,7 dmg) that's not normal is it? even on mobs there should be a slightly higher increase of dmg, right?

and when that's said.. the lvl38 spell Munin's Claw (139,3 dmg) should not be making MORE dmg at all, on an Orange mob, then the lvl37 spell (173,7 dmg) ... or is it me being all wrong n' stuff? :S

You must distinct between base and spec line spells and their variances.

Also resist debuffs DO work on mobs.

Blue wrote:You must distinct between base and spec line spells and their variances.

He talk about 2 spec buff of the same spec line.
Darkness spec line :
Spell level 37 : Rune of Shadow, Direct Damage, delve 173
Spell level 38 : Munin's Claw, Direct Damage and debuff, delve 139 / 10%

@Marcel : are u sure to use the level 37 version of Direct damage, and not the previous one ? Delve of the previous one is 137 which is nearly the same delve as the lvl 38 dd/debuff.
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for starters... both of the spells we're talking about here are "Spec-Line" spells, no Base-lines or anything else, Both are from the specline of "Darkness".. so shouldn't be anything confusing about that.. what im wondering about, is why they do the same amount of dmg (with or without debuff, it doesn't matter), but have VERY different DPS .. (139,3 and 173,7) .. they should not be doing the same dmg at all!, im sure you can understand that... i just find it very wierd and odd that they do, and the other gm i talked to (back when i was just lvl22) was like post it on the forum and see what's going to happen, so now im doing it since i got the same problem again... sorry if i sound mad or anything, im not just confused trying to make a clear statement, understandable for everbody (since english is not my 1st languange)

Hulkgris: I'm Possitive! i am 100% certain that im using the lvl37 spell otherwise i wouldn't complain ^^

You can show it to me ingame this evening and i can tell you exactly why you see the damage. Did you try on dollsalready?

i'd love to show ya... but i don't have time untill like 09 pm European time (Denmark) that's like 5 hours from now..

would that be possible for you Blue? or are you off duty by then?

Same for me. I have no time before 9pm

I leveled a RUnie recently and the 10% debuff works fine.

Unrelated note, Blue, check your PMs please.

Once again, IT IS NOT ABOUT THE DEBUFF! it's the basic dmg! they both delve the same amout of dmg, the 1st time the spell hits (WITHOUT debuff) ....

Marcelb1990 wrote:Once again, IT IS NOT ABOUT THE DEBUFF! it's the basic dmg! they both delve the same amout of dmg, the 1st time the spell hits (WITHOUT debuff) ....

Why didnt you /callgm me yet? 20min left.

I noticed this too on my 35 runemaster. I seem to do the same amount of damage using the 29 debuff DD as opposed to the 30 spec DD even though the delve is about 30% more on the spec DD.