champ spec and temp ?

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Whitelights
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Postby Whitelights » Feb 08, 2012 21:08

hmm planning to make a champ, with shield, valor and weapon (not sure dmg type yet)

Is it wise to go pierce if i wanne do farming in df or elsewhere a bit ?

Will i be bale to tank decent with a bard on my side .
Basicly what should be best for RvR , but also able to farm mobs with?

Been trying LW till lvl 40 but i always get the feeling i'm wasting time between styles.

Opinions plzz and some adviceperhaps.

Also , has anyone an idea where to find a template for a champ ?no matter the armorquality , got most lgd crafters on my side so :-)
regards hydro.

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Ichi
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Postby Ichi » Feb 09, 2012 02:09

I'm not really playing my champ often and there's many people who have by far more expierence with it, but 2 cookie cutter specs I like are(for solo):

40 valor
42 shield
34 LW
33 Blades(or Pierce->all physical dmg types available)
14 Parry

and

40 valor
42 shield
35 parry
35 blades

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testytesty1234
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Postby testytesty1234 » Feb 09, 2012 02:49

50valor 42shield rest weapon (39 i think). Red EVERTHING, slam ofc, and decent weapon spec. My reasoning is if yer rolling with just a bard highest dd and str buff seems nnecessary to me. Id stick to either blades (pve/pvp) or pierce (more pvp than pve) depending on race.
I havent seen a champ template lately but it shouldnt be too difficult kinda like a vw. Unless you farm taj2 like a mofo you can exclude
valor/power/parry depending on what spec you choose.
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Postby Whitelights » Feb 09, 2012 05:51

Guess i will go for 50 valor,42 shields and 39 pierce, 6parry
I realy get the feeling LW is to slow if not fully buffed with D/Q, only question is if it will be ok to use D/Q potions to get good damage from piercing since it is dex/str based if i'm correct?
In this template i found from a guildboard somewhere i will then have to change LW into pierce and parry to valor or should i stick to parry ?

Config Report

Stats
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STR: 76 / 75 INT: 7 / 75 Hits: 204 / 200 AF: 0 /
50
CON: 75 / 75 PIE: 0 / 75 End: 0 / 25
DEX: 75 / 75 EMP: 0 / 75 Pow: 6 / 26
QUI: 76 / 75 CHA: 0 / 75 %PP: 0% / 25%

Resists
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Body: 26 / 26 Energy: 26 / 26 Crush: 27 / 26 (+2)
Cold: 25 / 26 Matter: 26 / 26 Slash: 26 / 26 (+3)
Heat: 25 / 26 Spirit: 25 / 26 (+5) Thrust: 31 / 26
Essence: 0 / 26

Skills
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11 / 11 Large Weaponry change this to pierce
4 / 11 Parry this to valor perhaps or aint that usefull?
11 / 11 Shield

Piece Listing
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Chest
Name: Crafted Item1
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Imbue Points: 33.5 of 32 Overcharge: 1,5
Gem 1: 9 Slash Resist - Polished Watery Shielding Jewel
Gem 2: 7 Cold Resist - Imperfect Icy Shielding Jewel
Gem 3: 9 Body Resist - Polished Dusty Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 10 Strength - Flawed Fiery Essence Jewel
Utility: 56.7 SC Cost: 23g 28s 0c SC Price: 23g 28s 0c


Arms
Name: Done
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Imbue Points: 32.0 of 32 Overcharge: 0
Gem 1: 9 Crush Resist - Polished Fiery Shielding Jewel
Gem 2: 7 Matter Resist - Imperfect Earthen Shielding Jewel
Gem 3: 7 Heat Resist - Imperfect Heated Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 5 Slash Resist - Flawed Watery Shielding Jewel
Utility: 56.0 SC Cost: 18g 40s 40c SC Price: 18g 40s 40c


Head
Name: Crafted Item3
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Imbue Points: 33.0 of 32 Overcharge: 1
Gem 1: 19 Constitution - Faceted Earthen Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 5 Crush Resist - Flawed Fiery Shielding Jewel
Gem 3: 10 Strength - Flawed Fiery Essence Jewel
Gem 4: 28 Quickness - Perfect Airy Essence Jewel
Utility: 48.0 SC Cost: 45g 78s 40c SC Price: 45g 78s 40c


Legs
Name: done
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Imbue Points: 33.5 of 32 Overcharge: 1,5
Gem 1: 13 Quickness - Imperfect Airy Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 76 Hits - Perfect Blood Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 9 Body Resist - Polished Dusty Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 3 Spirit Resist - Rough Vapor Shielding Jewel
Utility: 51.7 SC Cost: 43g 2s 60c SC Price: 43g 2s 60c


Hands
Name: Done
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Imbue Points: 33.5 of 32 Overcharge: 1,5
Gem 1: 9 Spirit Resist - Polished Vapor Shielding Jewel
Gem 2: 11 Matter Resist - Faceted Earthen Shielding Jewel
Gem 3: 3 Large Weaponry Skill - Rough Heated War Spell Stone
Gem 4: 1 Body Resist - Raw Dusty Shielding Jewel
Utility: 57.0 SC Cost: 22g 67s 0c SC Price: 22g 67s 0c


Feet
Name: Done
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Imbue Points: 33.0 of 32 Overcharge: 1
Gem 1: 2 Large Weaponry Skill - Uncut Heated War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 28 Strength - Perfect Fiery Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 11 Energy Resist - Faceted Light Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 2 Thrust Resist - Uncut Airy Shielding Jewel
Utility: 54.7 SC Cost: 43g 21s 20c SC Price: 43g 21s 20c


Right Hand
Name: Crafted Item7
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Imbue Points: 33.5 of 32 Overcharge: 1,5
Gem 1: 6 Shield Skill - Polished Fiery Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 10 Dexterity - Flawed Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 3 Parry Skill - Rough Vapor Battle Jewel
Utility: 51.7 SC Cost: 10g 67s 80c SC Price: 10g 67s 80c


Left Hand
Name: Crafted Item8
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Imbue Points: 32.0 of 32 Overcharge: 0
Gem 1: 5 Shield Skill - Imperfect Fiery Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 22 Dexterity - Precious Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 5 Thrust Resist - Flawed Airy Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 1 Parry Skill - Raw Vapor Battle Jewel
Utility: 54.7 SC Cost: 25g 32s 60c SC Price: 25g 32s 60c


2 Handed
Name: Crafted Item9
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Imbue Points: 33.5 of 32 Overcharge: 1,5
Gem 1: 6 Large Weaponry Skill - Polished Heated War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 5 Thrust Resist - Flawed Airy Shielding Jewel
Gem 3: 3 Spirit Resist - Rough Vapor Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 7 Strength - Rough Fiery Essence Jewel
Utility: 50.7 SC Cost: 11g 9s 80c SC Price: 11g 9s 80c


Neck
Name: DF Necklace
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 7 Thrust Resist
Slot 2: 7 Body Resist
Slot 3: 7 Energy Resist
Slot 4: 48 Hits
Utility: 54.0


Cloak
Name: Melancholy Cloak
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 12 Constitution
Slot 2: 4 Crush Resist
Slot 3: 4 Slash Resist
Slot 4: 4 Thrust Resist
Utility: 32.0


Jewel
Name: Book of Arcane Dealings
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 8 Cold Resist
Slot 2: 8 Matter Resist
Slot 3: 8 Heat Resist
Slot 4: 6 Power
Utility: 52.0


Belt
Name: Skeagashee Belt
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 22 Dexterity
Slot 2: 22 Constitution
Slot 3: 22 Quickness
Slot 4: 40 Hits
Utility: 54.0


Left Ring
Name: Ring of Elements
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 7 Constitution
Slot 2: 7 Intelligence
Slot 3: 10 Cold Resist
Slot 4: 10 Heat Resist
Utility: 49.3


Right Ring
Name: Scratch's Pulsating Ring
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 15 Constitution
Slot 2: 13 Quickness
Slot 3: 9 Crush Resist
Slot 4: 2 Spirit Resist
Utility: 40.7


Left Wrist
Name: Midar's Bracer of Dexterity
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 21 Dexterity
Slot 2: 20 Hits
Slot 3: 8 Spirit Resist
Slot 4: 8 Energy Resist
Utility: 51.0


Right Wrist
Name: Midar's Bracer of Strenght
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 21 Strength
Slot 2: 20 Hits
Slot 3: 8 Slash Resist
Slot 4: 8 Thrust Resist
Utility: 51.0.

Thx for the reply's so far, opinions are still welcome ofc , and how , or should i improve this build with 100% items or other drops ?

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Jerrian
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Postby Jerrian » Feb 09, 2012 11:19

hmm,
your specc is okay for 1 vs1 and pvm. In small man and 8vs8 rvr you don `t want to miss the LW (even if the damage is buggy here).
Your template is ok for shield/1hand if you go for hybrid specc I would recommend keep the +11 LW in it, no need to improve quality of your items, stats are capped and mp scale is very expensive.

Most Champs use shield only for slam, if you want to be a blockbot in rvr tanks with 50 shield like hero are more asked for, that is what you should know, champ is not loved in rvr groups but it `s a nice solo char and can be fun in small groups too.

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Whitelights
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Postby Whitelights » Feb 10, 2012 12:50

yes i agree with last post and thinking of 34 pierce, 35 LW, 11 parry 40 valor and 42 shields.

might be better for FG and smallman action imo, only crafts will need 2 Mp's to cap i think , will post it when i'm trough working the temp.

BTW does it make a difference if i use a LW with slash damage while i have the pierce spec when using S/S ?

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Postby Jerrian » Feb 12, 2012 19:49

No, there is no difference when you switch but I would recommend a higher LW specc. LW is still buggy and I think to hit chance and damage would be really crap with only 35 in LW, but I never tested it, maybe there `s not such a big difference.

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Postby trolinus » Apr 10, 2012 10:47

you wanna play a realm champ ? go to 50 valor 50LW 28 parry or 27 parry and 10shield for engage, 50LW is backstun 9sec no ? if you know play a vw backstun you know play this spe and think i prefer that spe best s/c and you win backstun generaly with this spe on offi server before TOA stealther implose after their PA you have 2 other style for sure to hit a shield man or parry man ( lvl 39 style if target block , lvl 29 and follow style lvl 44 if target parry) if you havnt try try this spe debuff s/c and d/v and haste red if all pass the man face of you become a lvl 30 ^^ and generaly a lvl 30 2-3hit and dead


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