Oswaldo wrote:how can it ever be considered stealing? :s prime time hour.. if it was at 5 am or so it would have been stealing, like albs and hibs usually do

Technically they've borrowed them, as hibs and albs will take them back soon

So what people are arguing about, is if mids took advantage of the event taking place, and borrowed the relics...

EternitySphere wrote:
Seriously, no one forced anyone to do the event. You choose to do what you want. And lol @ honor in a war game. Those that use every advantage allowable to them are destined to victory, those that don't are always the ones crying because they were to blind to think of it first.

Seriously, do you think to be smarter than me, considering free choice any decision that doesn't come from having an automatic rifle aiming at you?
This event cannot be considered by any normal mind, to be a standard, created by players, event.
The admins created and run it and every player knew this, trusting to be doing something special, fun, and that admins wanted them to take part.

The main goal of videogames, is not winning, that's important but not necessary, the main goal of videogames is having fun.
Well, if insta and automatic winning amuse you, ok, than taking advantage of game or dynamic bug is funny.

Btw, it is true that we had time to react and probably save at least the last two power relics.
I (talking about myself only, don't know the other hibs) didn't go defend them, not because i was dreaming about a reskin scroll (nobody knew what the prize was going to be, at least on hib, i personally thought some uthalis), but because i found very unfair what was going on.
The admins, that i will never thank enough for all the work they do for us, created this time a chaotic situation. A faction of the game exploited that situation to their advantage. Reacting would have been legitimizing what they did, giving their raid the appereance of a normal raid. Well, that wasn't. Wanna exploit the Christmas event? Go Ahead, but you will find no spare and unorganized enemies that will let you delude yourself to have actually played for taking what you wanted to take

Petitpimousse wrote:Does your realm make fair attack of relic? no
You attack when less player in game saturday evening in mid,
Or near 5h00 morning europe

Ok, tell me, when is a good time for us to come take them back, because we will.

QQ MORE PLEASE PLEASEEEEEEEEE PLEASEEEEEEEEE, we owned you -> fact. now stfu, press tab and keep playing your miserable no skill characters ^^ bb

Badtzmaru wrote:

EternitySphere wrote:
Seriously, no one forced anyone to do the event. You choose to do what you want. And lol @ honor in a war game. Those that use every advantage allowable to them are destined to victory, those that don't are always the ones crying because they were to blind to think of it first.

Seriously, do you think to be smarter than me, considering free choice any decision that doesn't come from having an automatic rifle aiming at you?
This event cannot be considered by any normal mind, to be a standard, created by players, event.
The admins created and run it and every player knew this, trusting to be doing something special, fun, and that admins wanted them to take part.

The main goal of videogames, is not winning, that's important but not necessary, the main goal of videogames is having fun.
Well, if insta and automatic winning amuse you, ok, than taking advantage of game or dynamic bug is funny.

Btw, it is true that we had time to react and probably save at least the last two power relics.
I (talking about myself only, don't know the other hibs) didn't go defend them, not because i was dreaming about a reskin scroll (nobody knew what the prize was going to be, at least on hib, i personally thought some uthalis), but because i found very unfair what was going on.
The admins, that i will never thank enough for all the work they do for us, created this time a chaotic situation. A faction of the game exploited that situation to their advantage. Reacting would have been legitimizing what they did, giving their raid the appereance of a normal raid. Well, that wasn't. Wanna exploit the Christmas event? Go Ahead, but you will find no spare and unorganized enemies that will let you delude yourself to have actually played for taking what you wanted to take

The only people that ever say "I play just to have fun" are those that lose. The mids did exactly what I would have done in their situation versus 2 larger forces. They took advantage of an ideal situation where the other realms were occupied and they were severely outnumbered. The "I play just to have fun" excuse is only ever said by the losing side, the other school of thought of "I play to win" always have fun too, usually at the expense of the "I want to just have fun" sheep.

The Mids did what was right given the circumstances and all I can do is congratulate them considering the numbers albs/hibs had in the event, and the mids still managed to get points from their stealthers. Besides, relics are taken to be lost and retaken, most of the fun in relics comes from the fights involved, not the bonus you get while mindlessly farming DF.

Petitpimousse wrote:you say reraid the relic keep of the lamer
so only us we have relic so you say we are lamer

Your realm of angel raid relic at 5h00morning when we choose to sleep so we are busy
Your realm of angel raid relic sunday evening when hib choose to do dragon raid and are busy
Hib choose to raid your relic and our relic keep when you are in a pub or busy like us

Our realm choose to raid relic when your realm of angel and hib realm are busy too

So all found time when the other are busy, where is the problem?

Austerim wrote:The relic raids I've been on for Hib have been during primetime. Sorry to burst your bubble of excuses.

Sorry for doing the last alb relic raid on SUNDAY EVENING at offhours (20.00 CET probably the time most players are online of all in the week.) But well if it wasn't the Dragonraid, u would find another excuse

PS: idc about the Mid relicraid at all.

You care enough to post it seems like

Im just adding comment to the topic, unlike u bum

no u

Griselda i resume last month in few lines

When mid have relic 3 or 4 weeks ago some player in your realm attacked mid early morning...

Then hib attacked your realm in a week end when you was playing battlefield^^

Griselda was on hib player who wrote that they was on dragon when you attacked their relic


and it ll be easy for your realm and hib too to stole again because most of mid prefer stay amg, than defend relics...


I just want to say all realm found time to attack relics when the other are busy.... and not only mid
(you can be busy for differents reason:work studies, other game, sleep, in a pub etc)

one realm choice to sleep or go pub or go to an event or to work, or to dragon , the other realm go stole relic. it s not a problem for me it s the game. but when some player say we are only the realm who stole relic when the other are busy hmm....

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And another point how you explain 3 light of relic close, in your relic raid on hib?

Badtzmaru wrote:
The admins, that i will never thank enough for all the work they do for us, created this time a chaotic situation.

what?? they work very hard to make this game free and you QQ?? dude. if you dont like it, stop playing please kkthxbye!!

Petitpimousse wrote:Griselda was on hib player who wrote that they was on dragon when you attacked their relic

sorry i didnt get that sentence. just to make it clear, your not accusing me here for logging on hib to see if they are doing a relicraid, and then announce and do it on albion, or?

i guess u mean that a hib player said that they were on dragon when we attacked their relic.

and jeah.. it probably was like that, why would that be a lie. But i actually didnt even know and care when hibs are doing their stupid DR. I just choose sunday 20.00 CET for a alb relicraid since it would bring the biggest challenge and zerg action and also the biggest feeling of success (if we actually managed to break dagda's gates, which we didnt ) I was actually quite disappointed that taking the STR relic was so easy. Though there could have been a little less defence on the magic relics

i haven't said that you have connect on hib

But for ages hib do his dragon raid all sunday evening

Petitpimousse wrote:i haven't said that you have connect on hib

But for ages hib do his dragon raid all sunday evening

so once again.. i dont complain about mids relicraid. But im quite sure it was a bigger challenge when we were at dagda vs hibs last week =) But its ok if the aim is to get the relics, and nothing else. its totally ok. Im just saying that i prefer to get challenged during a relicraid (and im not speaking for albion, only for the raids i organize personally)

i agree with you

i just want to say that all realm look for relic, sometimes there are challenge sometimes not...