Ignore him, Zack. Just another Rare elitist.

Rare elitist, very interesting.


@ Roneluvv: Still i cant see where im saying that someones opinion does not matter. Im just saying that in certain topics, some people have more experience and some people less. And the opening post is quite naive and gives the view of a short period of RvR. Ofc if a RR5000 player would have wrote the same, he would receive the same reaction by me, as Uthgard simply isn't as much fun as it definately could be also for semi-satisfied casual players. (sadly most don't seem to realize the cause of this and that there could be more)

Bloodwyne wrote:Rare elitist, very interesting.


@ Roneluvv: Still i cant see where im saying that someones opinion does not matter. Im just saying that in certain topics, some people have more experience and some people less. And the opening post is quite naive and gives the view of a short period of RvR. Ofc if a RR5000 player would have wrote the same, he would receive the same reaction by me, as Uthgard simply isn't as much fun as it definately could be also for semi-satisfied casual players. (sadly most don't seem to realize the cause of this and that there could be more)

Also, he has a 10l7, so I feel inclined to believe him.

Seethoven wrote:

Bloodwyne wrote:Rare elitist, very interesting.


@ Roneluvv: Still i cant see where im saying that someones opinion does not matter. Im just saying that in certain topics, some people have more experience and some people less. And the opening post is quite naive and gives the view of a short period of RvR. Ofc if a RR5000 player would have wrote the same, he would receive the same reaction by me, as Uthgard simply isn't as much fun as it definately could be also for semi-satisfied casual players. (sadly most don't seem to realize the cause of this and that there could be more)

Also, he has a 10l7, so I feel inclined to believe him.

Whatever the reason is that you believe me, makes it easier for me if a 10L7 impress you so much. Maybe one day you will get the chance to buy one yourself.

Bloodwyne wrote:Rare elitist, very interesting.


@ Roneluvv: Still i cant see where im saying that someones opinion does not matter. Im just saying that in certain topics, some people have more experience and some people less. And the opening post is quite naive and gives the view of a short period of RvR. Ofc if a RR5000 player would have wrote the same, he would receive the same reaction by me, as Uthgard simply isn't as much fun as it definately could be also for semi-satisfied casual players. (sadly most don't seem to realize the cause of this and that there could be more)

So what you are are really saying is that on certain topics (RvR) some people (you and a handfull of other high RR players that agree with you) have more experience and some people less?! So your saying that the opinion of the low RR does matter, but just not much?

I would say based on your RR the only thing I can infer is that A) you never play solo RvR (since none of your toons are solo classes) and B) you must not have to much of a problem with the way things are in the current RvR settings since you obviously RvR alot or you did since you have multiple high RR toons. So based on those 2 things your opinion should only be taken serious when talking about group RvR since you dont have any high RR solo toons.

What I just did above is what you do to people all the time. Dont assume because someobody doesnt have a high RR toon that his thoughts on RvR are any less then yours. Yes, I agree that if you dont ever come out and do RvR then your opinion on the matter doesnt hold much weight, but if you have been RvR'ing at all after 4L2 then your thoughts on RvR do have weight. You and some others on here just think only in the small little world of 8 vs 8 RvR and dont ever think about others.

zack made my day lol

blood is active on uth even longer than me, sure he defend his 8v8 thinkings as u do with your "1on1+1" (haha)
he also run/ran solo with non solochars or changes his spec to run solo with them (seen both from him already)

in my opinion he´s rigth with low expirience and high expirienced people, the one who got, got
the problem is not "which rvr is the true one" the problem is more "how to attract people to do rvr"
atm its more the problem that people dont have fun waiting 2h for a grp , make 1 run , getting wiped by rr10+ and disband again.
all in all casual players fear the "elitists" and the "elitists" qq about the casual players add and sometimes even zerg.
we are trapped in a circle of hate, which is rly hard to break through. if the 8v8s would get a 8v8zone, this wouldnt help, because the 8v8 players are even to less to fill up 3 grps (one of each realm) EVERYDAY. so they would run as pug and go to the "casual player zone" again and kill the "noobz"
i´ve seen on uth already the nf emain rvr , agra rvr, agra with boat routes, agra with insta port and of rvr.
since nf emain nothing changed here, the noobs still QQ about oped classes or ra´s and the "pro´s" still qq about the noobs

i know my eng. is horrible but i hope u got my point ^^
btw i think blood made the same expirience as i did about the time here, and i think thats how he meaned the low and high exp. players (not the skill just the expirience that players wont change their minds.)

I'm glad I could bring a smile to your face Edgtho No, I'm not saying Bloodwyne doesnt ever play solo, and I'm not saying he is even wrong in his thought on RvR. I just got tired of him in my post awhile back and now this post attacking the thoughts of other based on nothing other then RR. So I was doing in turn what he was doing to myself and the OP on this thread. I looked at his signature and assumed things about how much and how he played. I was trying to show that just because you look at a persons toons and their RR's does not tell you everything about a player. Thats what he was doing and I was just doing it back. I'm sure he has played solo plenty, I would welcome his thoughts on it. Any time somebody wants to disagree with me I'm all for it as long as its respectful and showing me where I am wrong/right. Telling me that I dont know what I'm talking about because I only play ranger and dont have high enough RR does not exactly win me over to much.

RonELuvv wrote: I just got tired of him in my post awhile back and now this post attacking the thoughts of other based on nothing other then RR. So I was doing in turn what he was doing to myself and the OP on this thread.

So you got your revenge, are we clear now?

Sorry Roneluvv but in this topic i stop discussing with you.

I spend so many hours in this forum to give reasons for the current(2-3 years static) state of RvR and that it could be improved alot, and also HOW it could be improved. Now you see me quoting someones RR and downgrading his credibility because of that fact for ONCE and you get offended as ur obviously lacking PARTIALLY UTHGARD-RVR experience yourself and people might consider this because ur only "high RR" toon is a 8L ranger (OMG i referred on somes RR again). But i NEVER said his or yours or someone elses opinion does not matter. The reason i get upset by people like you or him or alot of others is the bullshit you write in this forum. Thats all. Sorry for quoting your realmranks and classes and consider this being a sort of credibility about someones opinion about Uthgard RvR! I apologize!

mark wtf come ig !

Thank you, that was all I was asking for. I'm not saying you dont know what you are talking about with RvR because you obviously do, but lets all try and respect everyone elses thoughts on it.

Why you get upset of me about? lol

And like someone else pointed out, Im not a casual player.

And I think this topic can be closed for now, we have beaten this horse enough now