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Postby MotaroReloaded » Nov 23, 2011 02:03

Why am i geting target not in view with /face on the player? i quicast mezz and i get slamed cause "YOU CANT SEE YOUR TARGET FROM HERE" what the hell is that? i cant see him but he s meleeing my ass and i /faced him
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Postby burfo » Nov 23, 2011 03:13

You are saying that the /face command failed, due to the target not in view? Or you're saying the spell after the /face has failed?
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Postby MT-Pear » Nov 23, 2011 10:16

bet the second one ^^ know this "isue". directly after /face the target is still "not in view".
it need 1-2 seconds untill you can cast.
strangerly it doesnt count for melee (else the sidestun strafe wouldnt work).

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Postby Blue » Nov 23, 2011 13:45

I think that problem was reported before. If you /face your target theres a small delay until the client updates the LOS states. No tracker on it yet.

LOS-check <> positional check.
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Postby ZaiQQ » Nov 23, 2011 13:48

Blue wrote:I think that problem was reported before. If you /face your target theres a small delay until the client updates the LOS states. No tracker on it yet.

LOS-check <> positional check.


It happens from max range also, if you are on his "side" and face you will get it sometimes, jumping cancels it out. Very annoying to get punishment for being quick.
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Postby Blue » Nov 23, 2011 15:13

Positional checks depend on client position updates. If they are too slow then we cant do much. Same happens on live servers then too. This is especially a problem if you change direction quickly.

But this is not the problem for that thread.
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Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard"
Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand"

[Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????"
BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

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Postby MotaroReloaded » Nov 25, 2011 18:48

It hapened like this , enemy came i targeted /face on him did quicast mezz and he came through or side of me not sure and i got this message that canceled my quic mezz , yet he was on me meleeing me and i was facing him, until i realised what hapened i died when i did again quicmezz :P got stunned etc , i ll put a pic with the combat log. On live it was known that if you /face your enemy and do a cast no way you can get target not in view, even if you had lagg you d still mezz him.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/805/notinview.jpg/
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Postby ZaiQQ » Nov 26, 2011 05:32

MotaroReloaded wrote:It hapened like this , enemy came i targeted /face on him did quicast mezz and he came through or side of me not sure and i got this message that canceled my quic mezz , yet he was on me meleeing me and i was facing him, until i realised what hapened i died when i did again quicmezz :P got stunned etc , i ll put a pic with the combat log. On live it was known that if you /face your enemy and do a cast no way you can get target not in view, even if you had lagg you d still mezz him.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/805/notinview.jpg/


That is not correct. You could always run through enemies on live making their quickcast fail even if they faced.
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Postby pweet » Nov 26, 2011 05:49

on live you could run through casters as long as u want to, this just changed with toa when u were dead before u reached them :D

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Postby Satz » Nov 26, 2011 10:46

Would be interesting if you somehow could place this into melee so that lagstrafing would be harded/less likely productive.

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Postby Zarkor » Nov 26, 2011 22:55

Satz wrote:Would be interesting if you somehow could place this into melee so that lagstrafing would be harded/less likely productive.

WHAT?! The melee mechanics are already broken as **** with the 'not in view' bullsh!t and you would customly screw it over even more in the hope to make a livelike possibility impossible?

Would probably be one of the worst changes ever.
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Postby Jezzmin » Nov 27, 2011 07:01

maybe not the same thing, but rather similar:

I got a macro for self-healing with "/target Jezzmite" (name of my cleric)...when I use that macro and press the healing-key right afterwards my log looks like:

you target jezzmite (white text)
target not in view
you target [jezzmite] (salmon-coloured text (the one for kill-msgs (except rvr ones)

with a little delay of like 0.5s or something it works fine:

you target jezzmite
you target [jezzmite]
target not in view

really no idea if this is the same issue, but it might be, as its a LoS and delay problem too ;)

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Postby MotaroReloaded » Nov 27, 2011 18:59

Jezzmin wrote:maybe not the same thing, but rather similar:

I got a macro for self-healing with "/target Jezzmite" (name of my cleric)...when I use that macro and press the healing-key right afterwards my log looks like:

you target jezzmite (white text)
target not in view
you target [jezzmite] (salmon-coloured text (the one for kill-msgs (except rvr ones)

with a little delay of like 0.5s or something it works fine:

you target jezzmite
you target [jezzmite]
target not in view

really no idea if this is the same issue, but it might be, as its a LoS and delay problem too ;)


I used a macro self for healing with Valkyrie 2 hots but never had problems with it on live, tho i dont need los just me targeted, never had to w8.

Oke but then its bullshiet, if this happends , tbh never hapened to me on live before , and i played theurg and wizz in rvr , i always casted with /face on my enemy even on strafing meleers, because problem can be also in the fact how the spell is calculated towards the target , i havent even started to cast and i already get not in view caneling the spell before my caster raised his hands, on live at least you could raise your hands and begin the spell , and if you re doing 50% of the spell and your hands are up ..even if you get hit you should perform the spell, while here lots of time it gets intrerupted, hapends on mobs aswell when i get rupted and i ve done 50% of the spell with my hands... i hope you know about what i m saying ..was it 50% is it not?
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Postby Blue » Nov 28, 2011 23:30

I tested it in a clean environment. Stand with back to my target and macroed:

1. /face
2. cast

works every single time. Wheres the problem?
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later.

"It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something
is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure."


Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard"
Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand"

[Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????"
BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

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Postby Austerim » Nov 29, 2011 02:19

Blue wrote:I tested it in a clean environment. Stand with back to my target and macroed:

1. /face
2. cast

works every single time. Wheres the problem?
You do it fast enough and you get "Target not in view" every single time. ;)
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