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Postby asheron » Sep 01, 2011 20:09

on my 50 longbow plus 9,FE 2,AD 2, Defiler's Aim Longbow, Crit Shot IX hits for 100-250 in pve or rvr, reg shots range from 40-140 and rapid fire 20-80.I have tried several respecs on realm abuilitys with even worse results with higher AD/FE.I have 140 base Dex all starting points but 1 went into Dex 75/75 item bonus (2) over cap,+12 (buffs/debuffs) then with 20 for pot buff =247 Dex.I get shot by hubters/rangers for tons more on any ofmy chars an i have 6 lv 50 albs btw normasl crit dhots by enemys even lower RR than my scout and im guessing most are not 50 bow yet they crit for 700-1000 and reg shots (im guessing) 350-450 and they fire alot faster than a scout as it is suposed to be.The Scout fires slower an weapons slower but that should increase damage for them. I just am not seeing the damages and dont have any clue what to do about it yes I know a templated char will help but the enemys iv seen for the most part are low rr an using just as normal gear as me and templating should make a difference but look at my damage's and my spec again thats weak even if i were nacked. Any help would be apprcated thanks

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Postby Screw » Sep 01, 2011 20:59

First off, nice name. I loved that game back in the day.

Second, you'll need to post some screenshots of this damage, and on different enemies (in rvr and pve). I just can't believe it. Also some screenshots of your character as well. With those stats and gear your numbers should not suck that bad.

Third, I have a hard time believing you have 6 50s and still can't work out your damage problems. What have others in game told you might be the cause of your damage issues?

Fourth, I'm guessing (and hoping) that English is not your first or even second language. It's hard to make out what you've written.

In summary: Screenshots

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Postby devilsfury » Sep 02, 2011 05:33

The poster is 100% correct. My scout is full SC and I use charges and pots to get my dex close to 300. I get hit regularly by rangers for 200-350 non crit shot. Yesterday i got hit for 800! Really, now thats fair. The most ive ever hit anyone with my Scout is 400. But well all know that Rangers are stupid crazy overpowered and Scouts and Hunters are fodder. Ill never understand why the staff refuses to help the classes that actually need help.

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Postby linklink64 » Sep 02, 2011 15:31

devilsfury wrote:The poster is 100% correct. My scout is full SC and I use charges and pots to get my dex close to 300. I get hit regularly by rangers for 200-350 non crit shot. Yesterday i got hit for 800! Really, now thats fair. The most ive ever hit anyone with my Scout is 400. But well all know that Rangers are stupid crazy overpowered and Scouts and Hunters are fodder. Ill never understand why the staff refuses to help the classes that actually need help.



because their goal is to put the game at a patch level....not fix imbalances.

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Postby shade » Sep 02, 2011 16:04

devilsfury wrote:The poster is 100% correct. My scout is full SC and I use charges and pots to get my dex close to 300. I get hit regularly by rangers for 200-350 non crit shot. Yesterday i got hit for 800! Really, now thats fair. The most ive ever hit anyone with my Scout is 400. But well all know that Rangers are stupid crazy overpowered and Scouts and Hunters are fodder. Ill never understand why the staff refuses to help the classes that actually need help.


You do realize that damage calculation for all 3 realms is same regarding bows.


Hints: RAs, AF charge, correct dmg type, critshot requirements, arrowtype, bowquality, and you/the initial poster is probably < RR5, so 16.2 dps instead of 16.5.
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Postby asheron » Sep 02, 2011 19:21

Sorry English is all i know and it is bad .I will work on getting screen shot's to show everything that may help. I just fought a nightshde an melee damage was 39 bow damage regular shot was 97 an i was buffed to 267 dex with pots/item buffs.The archery damage caculations should not be same for all 3 realms btw as albion has longer draw time , slower longbow speed (both which should be part of the damage caculations for an increased damage as well longer range (because of draw time's) also my rr is 4l6 if that helps thank's for the post. I also played AC loved that game:)

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Postby Asloan » Sep 03, 2011 00:34

Longbow does NOT have a longer drawtime per se, it is just weaponspeed modified by dex (i think its dex for bows? or quick like for every1 else? not sure here). There is no difference between Alb or Mid or Hib concerning Bow damage, just the Range the Snipers have is different. It seems to me you lack a lot of knowledge regarding DaoC. I would advice you to read it up.

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Postby asheron » Sep 04, 2011 13:45

Thanks for the advice. I actually have played albion only sence DAoC went live the knowledge I have is from playing the classes but mythic has adjusted tabels a few times over the years and that can make it hard to keep up with things.The alb longbow is a slower weapon and one thing that follows slower weapon speeds is higher damage (or use to ) in mythics wisdom they probly have all 3 realms damage tabels caculated to be the same now ,totaly not considering weapon speed's , realm speed's draw time's ect. This would be my guess as I have seen about everything over the year's and nothing they do surprises me any more.Seem's to me the real problem is they have no knowledge of how albion classes work and or were setup to be or why.Therefore it would be a sinple thing to over look small details that have huge effects on the forgotten realm. A small example would be Infy=beartooth lv 15 stun off evade. I t is now stun off block and everyone know's infy's ONLY defence is evade. How can this happen ? Simple , the wise one's did not understand albion had TWO Thrust line's One =styles for eavde/infy, Two style's for minstrel/scout ie: melee classes with shield's. ow albion has 1 line of styles for thrust which take's away from the infy there only defence can you say (working as intended)

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Postby devilsfury » Sep 06, 2011 01:48

Its not going to matter. Several classes are stupid overpowered but Uthgard just keeps patch levle. If they fix or do anything to keep the balance right then it would become a custom server. (which it should be) No, im not going to quit. I just go by the old saying... If you are in charge... you know something is wrong or stupid...your people know its wrong or stupid...they people that know and play know its wrong or stupid...and again. Your in charge. Make the change! My 2 cents.

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Postby Jonah » Sep 06, 2011 02:47

Your dex as saracen with 10 into starting points and fully buffed with charges/pots should be= 80+10+45+75+20+63 = 293
ontop of that aug dex3 is nice so 315 dex then.

Qui with 10 starting points would land on: 60+10+23+75+63 = 231

On classic qui decides draw time so getting it close to cap at 250 is important.

Been hit several times for 7-800+ by scouts o u definitely doing something wrong.

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Postby devilsfury » Sep 06, 2011 03:02

Inconnu. With my pots/aug dex i have 286 dex, about 195 quick. I have 50+14 bow with 5.5 99% bow. Using the correct arrows on targets the most ive ever done was on a stunned target was 570.(he had low resists) But my typical(average) with crit is about 300-350. I know you must think im doing something wrong but I dont understand it. Guess why you almost NEVER see any Scouts or Hunters around. Only and always the OP Ranger class.

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Postby ntc » Sep 06, 2011 18:54

btw, this is a custom server...

NF RAs were never implemented without TOA, this server is taking parts of two different eras of daoc and combining them...

there was never charge without demoralization/bodyguard/SW/artys and casters who nuked for 400+(toa bonuses)

sever is anything but "patch level"
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Postby devilsfury » Sep 08, 2011 03:45

Well, thats the excuse that we are use to getting from the GMs. They will not help Scouts or Hunters because it would be custom and they dont want to do it. They must all play Rangers.

BTW...to add insult to injury...I just slammed a NS tonight and while he was stunned i did crit shot. Guess what? I missed! MISSED! 50+14 bow and had friar buffs with my Dex to 304. How can you justify that?

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Postby ZaiQQ » Sep 08, 2011 05:10

devilsfury wrote:Well, thats the excuse that we are use to getting from the GMs. They will not help Scouts or Hunters because it would be custom and they dont want to do it. They must all play Rangers.

BTW...to add insult to injury...I just slammed a NS tonight and while he was stunned i did crit shot. Guess what? I missed! MISSED! 50+14 bow and had friar buffs with my Dex to 304. How can you justify that?


Well you do have a percentage to miss, its bound to happen once in a while.
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Postby shade » Sep 08, 2011 09:06

QQ :)

I have 50+18 CritStrike and guess what, sometimes I miss PA. Not often though, but it happens.
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