Yeah that's true, female elve BM wopuld be awesome but I prefer the badass bolgs and their nice stats ^^

I still hesitate between +15str/10dex for best dmg possible for split spec blades/pierce and +10/+10/+10 str/dex/qui for balanced stats...is it worth it to put 5 more pts in str for the lose of 10 qui? (rvr grp will be push one)

Djienveh wrote:Yeah that's true, female elve BM wopuld be awesome but I prefer the badass bolgs and their nice stats ^^

I still hesitate between +15str/10dex for best dmg possible for split spec blades/pierce and +10/+10/+10 str/dex/qui for balanced stats...is it worth it to put 5 more pts in str for the lose of 10 qui? (rvr grp will be push one)

go 10 quick for sure. There is no celerity on hib, and no Mastery of Arms realm ability, so you are gonna want all the quickness you can get.

Full CD and blade for leveling is nice you have nice deal against animals and undead :p

Is the 50CD/50Weapon/28Parry Spec not good for (smallman) RvR? Sure -Slam is very powerful but this 50/42/39 spec is haunting me with my Hero and Champ and I thought, that maximum Damage is the better way for an offtank?!
I have no Experience with a 50er BM have atm three 35er BMs for Bramar: Bolg/Blade, Celt with Piercer and ! Elf with Piercer and want to level now one of them to Lev 50. My styleneed BM is for sure the Elfgirlie . But have i real chance for Groups and Smallman RvR with lev 50 as an ElfpiercerBM (startpoints +10 str/dex/qui) and 50/50/28?

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the point is you are not loosing dmg as long as you are using styles from an advanced styleline like cd with a composit spec of 51 in your weaponline. so spending 50 point into your weaponline is completly usless unless you want to use styles from that line - wich you dont as CD styles >>>>>>>>> weapon line styles. thus you have a bunch of point to be spend and shield with slam and the option to guard in small grps is by far better then parry and the option to use inferior styles.

The thing with quickness is not that easy no generalize, highly depends on race and the swingspeed of your offhand weapon. since celtic dual spec gives you the chance to hit with offhand swingspeed you have to calculate if it's worth speccing quickness.

e.g a temped celt bm with buffs has 211 quick (15 str 10 dex) , if you use a 2.4 offhand weapon your swingspeed is already below the cap which means that its ineffective.

Just keep in mind to pick a slower offhand if going to spec quick at the beginning , use this calculator for the optimal weapon/quick choice
http://www.etilader.com/wscalc.php

Nef Melody wrote:e.g a temped celt bm with buffs has 211 quick (15 str 10 dex) , if you use a 2.4 offhand weapon your swingspeed is already below the cap which means that its ineffective.

Isn't cap supposed to be 1.5s? With the 211qui you mentioned and 17% you would get, according to the calculator that you linked

Mainhand Swing Speed = 2.26
Offhand Swing Speed = 1.39
Dual Wield Swing Speed = 1.82

which doesn't hit the 1.5s cap, assuming 3.9 mainhand 2.4 offhand.

Of course it depends how dual wield swingspeed is calculated for Hib/Alb on Uthgard, some say Main/Off is averaged, some say it's 50% chance to either get main or offhand speed for the next swing.

shade wrote:

Nef Melody wrote:e.g a temped celt bm with buffs has 211 quick (15 str 10 dex) , if you use a 2.4 offhand weapon your swingspeed is already below the cap which means that its ineffective.

Isn't cap supposed to be 1.5s? With the 211qui you mentioned and 17% you would get, according to the calculator that you linked

Mainhand Swing Speed = 2.26
Offhand Swing Speed = 1.39
Dual Wield Swing Speed = 1.82

which doesn't hit the 1.5s cap, assuming 3.9 mainhand 2.4 offhand.

Of course it depends how dual wield swingspeed is calculated for Hib/Alb on Uthgard, some say Main/Off is averaged, some say it's 50% chance to either get main or offhand speed for the next swing.

if dualwield is working like on live your off hand will be capped at 1.5 and your dualwield speed is 2.04 loosing some dmg on your offhand without benefiting from the lower delay.

Not sure if it's 50% but yes , there is a fixed chance to hit with offhand swingspeed on hib/alb

Nef Melody wrote:Not sure if it's 50% but yes , there is a fixed chance to hit with offhand swingspeed on hib/alb

only when swinging unstyled

CD/DW is having three options
styled:
a) only mainhand -> only mainhand delay
b) bothhands swing -> (main + offhand delay)/2

unstyled
a,b) see above
c) only offhand swings -> offhand delay

sure about that `?

that is what Wyrdd's testing showed a very long time ago.

I would advice to the OP to play what he wants.

I made elf BM and is absolutely awesome, not only on looks either.

Is a game after all, and we are here to enjoy.

Force wrote:that is what Wyrdd's testing showed a very long time ago.

wyrd just showed people that there's a hidden weaponskill in the dual lines

Nef Melody wrote:

Force wrote:that is what Wyrdd's testing showed a very long time ago.

wyrd just showed people that there's a hidden weaponskill in the dual lines

Wyrdd did way more testing than just that. Look at his old web page.