vangonaj wrote:If viper 3 is overpowered ok. What about woc3? 750 instant damage? Or pd5? All plyers cry about viper but no one want see other "OP" ras.

+1

Methusalem wrote:

vangonaj wrote:If viper 3 is overpowered ok. What about woc3? 750 instant damage? Or pd5? All plyers cry about viper but no one want see other "OP" ras.

+1

gimme old ras ...
NEw RA´s witout toa gimmicks is a big flaw....

vangonaj wrote:If viper 3 is overpowered ok. What about woc3? 750 instant damage? Or pd5? All plyers cry about viper but no one want see other "OP" ras.

Well Woc3 is on a 10 minute timer. It only has 150 radius and has drop off like a normal PBAE (or should). It can also be resisted (resisted Viper'ed poisons can simply be reapplied). It also costs four more realm skill points, but that is a minor difference. Besides, how prevalent are the classes that can even get it and will get it over much better RAs? There are many more stealthers than there are champs, pallies, and thanes. And Viper damage is always present.

PD is a defensive RA which requires you to be hit to be effective, and only works on physical damage. Viper has no such restriction, it works on melees, hybrids, casters, and other stealthers. It also requires four more points to invest to get the top tier level, but again, only a minor difference.

Yes, there are some RAs that can be OP. The issue is limitations on those RAs, as well as the prevalence of discussion regarding how OP Viper is, so more people use it thus perpetuating the cycle. Also some of the other, more powerful RAs, are somewhat broken. You can counter ones like TWF or Static Tempest by simply walking out of it, so going beyond one level of it is often a waste.

Screw wrote:PD is a defensive RA which requires you to be hit to be effective, and only works on physical damage.

Leg weapons were delated, and i never saw rangers fighting vs casters every day.
All started cry about viper when assasins started zerg like assholes. When we were 15 active stalthers in this server there were solo champs, palas, casters...

Old RAs is a move backwards.

NF RAs ar OP for our settings.

Solution:
Custom RAs
No RAs


RAs are good. But maybe nerf some RAs

PD/Viper as active RAs.
Charge Speedboost only.
Purge 3 on a lower timer

Finalement wrote:Charge Speedboost only.

LoL, yeah right.

Maybe a +50% to resist CC would be fair, only speedboost would be ridicolous.

Dont solo as an eld,as easy as that except u speced Concentration3. You died to viper, otherwise youd ve died to purge and you wont complain about 5min pruge

yes, viper is overpowered in this setting.

yes, PD is overpowered in this setting.

yes, woc3 is overpowered in this setting.

yes, elds are terrible for solo play in this setting.

yes, you should reroll your solo toon.

I agree, some RAs are overpovered at current server setting and other side i am negative to old RAs. Customized new RAs sounds like good compromise.

Finalement wrote:Old RAs is a move backwards.

NF RAs ar OP for our settings.

Solution:
Custom RAs
No RAs


RAs are good. But maybe nerf some RAs

PD/Viper as active RAs.
Charge Speedboost only.
Purge 3 on a lower timer

Agree, although exact changes can be discussed, I think to totally remove CC resist from charge is a bit too much..

Also it would be nice to see MoTA for casters etc, no +castspd ToA bonus doesn't fit the server when there is no access to that RA small stuff like that..

But it is way way easier to "fix" New RA's than to "fix" old RA's.. it will be a step in the wrong direction to bring old RA's back people need to realize that..

vangonaj wrote:If viper 3 is overpowered ok. What about woc3? 750 instant damage? Or pd5? All plyers cry about viper but no one want see other "OP" ras.

Woc3 Makes 750 dmg -resis so about 500 ,is an ACTIVE Ra , viper 3=120x5 = 600 without any Timer . Another Example : assasine Makes in my vw a Pa+viper3 dir and i die. Nerf Viper!

Lifioch wrote:

vangonaj wrote:If viper 3 is overpowered ok. What about woc3? 750 instant damage? Or pd5? All plyers cry about viper but no one want see other "OP" ras.

Woc3 Makes 750 dmg -resis so about 500 ,is an ACTIVE Ra , viper 3=120x5 = 600 without any Timer . Another Example : assasine Makes in my vw a Pa+viper3 dir and i die. Nerf Viper!

This made me lol.

You do realize that you need envenom skill to use viper, and that without viper you would still do dmg?

Edit: Your vw should at least have 1500+ HP, there is just no way to do this in one hit. So I guess you lied or you failed badly
And I'm not even starting about getting PAed is already fail. Your post is just QQ.

i hear PA dmg is bugged to boot.

Same old story
Stealthers, wich are godly overpowered beyond the pantheon on uthgard, says "is fine, we got skill, you suck at playg your class" and easily win every fight, ulsess they really sucks so hard or stays afk during fight.
Normal class complains about it, because the fun is ruined by those no-skill classes

Even blue admitted that stealthers damage (of all 3 realms) is broken, so.....

Until Blue fixes something, the solo/small grp fun, will be zero.

shade wrote:

Lifioch wrote:

vangonaj wrote:If viper 3 is overpowered ok. What about woc3? 750 instant damage? Or pd5? All plyers cry about viper but no one want see other "OP" ras.

Woc3 Makes 750 dmg -resis so about 500 ,is an ACTIVE Ra , viper 3=120x5 = 600 without any Timer . Another Example : assasine Makes in my vw a Pa+viper3 dir and i die. Nerf Viper!

This made me lol.

You do realize that you need envenom skill to use viper, and that without viper you would still do dmg?

Edit: Your vw should at least have 1500+ HP, there is just no way to do this in one hit. So I guess you lied or you failed badly
And I'm not even starting about getting PAed is already fail. Your post is just QQ.

Dont tell me you never get pa'd .... unbuffed I have like 1350 Hits -s/c poison ,bugged Pa for 700 + Viper = dead , Yes and stealther got a Lot of points so they can spec envenom