As a Ranger you can just ve dual blades/pierce spec. So not that big deal for a Ranger.

pweet wrote:As a Ranger you can just ve dual blades/pierce spec. So not that big deal for a Ranger.

At RR10+ maybe.........

PA/BS for a NS is equal to a critshoot (i've you have it)
I think rangers have enought tools to perform against a minstrel (from my pov who play like a ranger, i mean no vip)

and btw, for blade/pierce you definitly don't need rr10 to perform well with, believe me, i know one who play really well with this since 4L and he's nearly 6L now.

So what's his spec?

OK you can drop PF, the speed shout is a goodie, and everything else (buffs) can be aquired via charges/pots.

Personally I prefer to keep as few charges as possible, meaning I run only 4 (Str/Con, dex/qui, haste, base dex) on my NS and only 3 (Str/con, haste, base dex) on my ranger. But admitted, that is something ideologically. The lack of PF can be mostly compensated by the (heavy!) use of pots/charges. Personally, I'm looking forward to the pot/charge limit.

Most of the rangers that people complain about are ether full melee or just high rr. Play one as a full bow spec or hybrid at a lower rr. Its not easy mode like many like to say.

If something is broken, prove it and post what it is and how it should be. Maybe people are just use to how Rangers are on other servers, buffbot servers/live buff botting. This is classic with limited buffing, you should expect it to be some what diff. And last i checked, the ranger is not the top one in RvR anymore. I remember ever since Old Ra was announced, the assassins went up. The most played class tends to be what is said on the forum. Tons of Ranger Volley posts because its OP = tons of rangers. Fix Volley. So many go to full melee, lead by high rr and assisting. Tons of Rangers are overpowered posts = more rangers. Then OF RA announced and posts about how stealth will suck for rangers and issues for archers. Right then the NS and Infi sky rockets.

If you want less rangers, say they are not overpowered, but suck and X class is much stronger. Then X class will be everywhere.

Fire Wizards are totally overpowered!

Greetings

Yeah damn fire wizard always easy kill me!

Artefact wrote:PA/BS for a NS is equal to a critshoot (i've you have it)
I think rangers have enought tools to perform against a minstrel (from my pov who play like a ranger, i mean no vip)

and btw, for blade/pierce you definitly don't need rr10 to perform well with, believe me, i know one who play really well with this since 4L and he's nearly 6L now.

but stopped playing it since its just boring zergfest out ;p

Rangers being overpowered... Hmmm. How many Hunters do you see out in Emain? Few to none. How many Scouts do you see in Emain? Few to none. How many Rangers do you see in Emain? About as many as Chinese people in China. Thats how many.

-Self buffs almost Cleric like
-Bow
-Duel Wield with SUPER Cheese Lag side stun and hit harder than an assassin class.
-Camo
-Class Sprint
-Ranged casted rupt
-MOS

So yes, Ranger is one of the best solo'rs in the game.

devilsfury wrote:Rangers being overpowered... Hmmm. How many Hunters do you see out in Emain? Few to none. How many Scouts do you see in Emain? Few to none. How many Rangers do you see in Emain? About as many as Chinese people in China. Thats how many.

-Self buffs almost Cleric like
-Bow
-Duel Wield with SUPER Cheese Lag side stun and hit harder than an assassin class.
-Camo
-Class Sprint
-Ranged casted rupt
-MOS

So yes, Ranger is one of the best solo'rs in the game.

a viper3 assasin does better and does it more often vs a larger variety of targets then a ranger does every 15 min.

I could not agree more with Zai's comment above. Assasin does not have classes that it will not mess with. A ranger does. I'm RR7L6 and I wont touch a friar unless there is absolutely nothing else out there to kill. Reavers I will usually only fight if I have purge up. SM's are impossible, unless they are extremely poorly played. Higher RR tanks with shields (on hybrid spec rangers) are also a class to avoid if possible. All of the above chars I've seen solo assasins' take down like nothing.

Also, your comment comparing the number of rangers vs the number of scouts/hunters is just flat out dumb. When you start on Uthgard, most people base what they should make off of what everyone else says. If people are saying ranger is op'd and hunter/scout is gimped then guess what the average new player makes. Edgtho beats my ranger's butt on his hunter. He has proven that it is not a gimp'd class. Yes, it has some issues (pet dmg needs a BIG fix, and they say 2h dmg is off, but it seems fine to me). Scout, is probably the most gimped of all 3 classes, but its mainly a combination of 2 things. 1) People play the class very poorly. I've had countless battles where a scout will get his slam on me then either use normal or rapid fire shots with bow (should be doing a crit) or they will mele me. If you are mele'ing after your slam then you are just an idiot and deserve to die. 2) Purge on a 15 minute timer kills them. Scouts on classic live LIVED off opening with crit shot, normal shots, slam, crit shot and normal shot = death to whomever they were fighting. 15 minute purge timer (and purge 3 for 5 minute reuse timer) KILLED scouts. If and when we go back to classic RA's you will see the number of scouts increase by a bunch and the number of rangers and hunters you see will decrease. Please make a ranger, play it till 5L0 then tell me how op'd the class is. You woudl be amazed at how many rangers send me tell's in game wondering why they aren't pwn'ing everything in sight. I just laugh at them and tell them to quit reading the thread forums.

Can we just remove all STEALTH from the game? That'll solve a ton of issues!

Sure, lets remove all stealth, but since I play stealth as my main I would also like to see the Friar, Reaver, Merc, SM, Zerker, Theurg, and Minstril all removed as well.

There is nothing wrong with stealthers. They are a fun class and a great part of this game. Personally, I cant stand 8 vs 8 fights. They take to long to form up groups, you go out and win some/lose some then have to wait forever to fill in for anyone who left, you get back out there and either there is too much action or not enough. With my stealther, I dont wait on anyone. I log in, head out to RvR. If its dead or I dont like the action then I do something else. If the action is good then I dont have to spend 10-20 minutes between battles waiting to fill a group. Stealther are for the people who dont have 8 hours a day to dedicate to a group toon.

Edit : Insult.

Snigel wrote:edited : insulte

Not sure why you're choosing to launch a personal attack against me on the forums. Let me refer you to the rules.

http://uthgard.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=46&Itemid=56&lang=en

Specifically:
§3.1 Ingame behavior between players
Players have to abstain from using insults, harassing, threats, compromisings and spam. This especially includes racist, nationalistic, ethnic, religious and sexistic harassments. It is not allowed to defame someone abouthis disabilities and origins. Violations of the rule will be punished and can result in permanent bans.

§4.2 Appliance of rules 2.11 to 2.15 for IRC and forum
In the forum and in the IRC channel the same rules for behavior apply (especially for spam). Violations against this rule will result in punishments and may in serious cases result in permanent bans for forum and/or IRC and can even affect the user on the game server.

Maybe you should re think posting on the forums if you can't follow the rules.