Does MAstery of Magery works for minstrels DDs?

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Postby tonhl » May 15, 2011 20:28

Simple question :)
Anyone knows?

Tx in advance!

PS: and aug Charisma also get up dd's dmg up right?

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Postby Force » May 16, 2011 10:11

Yes.

haven't tested uthgard specifically with a minstrel but it would be a bug if it didn't.

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Postby tonhl » May 16, 2011 11:08

Force wrote:Yes.

haven't tested uthgard specifically with a minstrel but it would be a bug if it didn't.


Ok thanks a lot m8 :)
For a leftover point is not bad to add 2% dmg to our main source of dmg... ehehehe :)

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Postby MT-Pear » May 16, 2011 13:00

MoM definitely works ;) And if you're unsure if you should spec in MoM or Wildpower, here some math ^^

MoM:

Level 1: 2%/1rp = 2,00% mdpp
Level 2: 2%/3rp = 0,66% mdpp
Level 3: 3%/6rp = 0,50% mdpp
Level 4: 4%/10rp = 0,40% mdpp
Level 5: 4%/14rp = 0,29% mdpp

Wild Power:

Averange Dmg per Crit: 25%

Level 1: 3% x 0,25 /1rp = 0,75% mdpp
Level 2: 6% x 0,25 /3rp = 0,50% mdpp
Level 3: 8% x 0,25 /6rp = 0,33% mdpp
Level 4: 10% x 0,25 /10rp = 0,25% mdpp
Level 5: 12% x 0,25 /14rp = 0,21% mdpp

mdpp = more damage per realmspecpoint

Hope it helps :P

sidenote: Instant DDs don't have the basic chance of 10% to crit. ;)

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Postby Kaltess » May 16, 2011 17:34

Wild power don't seems to work as intended for my minst and for my smite cleric.
With my arms and Mop4 i got 3/5 crit hit.
with my cleric with WP4 i got 1/10 crit...
Guildmate did same test with her minst and get NO crit with WP4

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Postby pweet » May 16, 2011 17:45

so u did a sample of 10 tries and try to do some statistics with it? :oops:

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Postby Nymeros » May 16, 2011 22:30

Related to MT-Pear's post above, here's an old Damage maximizing table I found lying on my hard drive, if I remember correctly a Necro TL posted it some years ago on VN boards, but it should be correct for Minstrel as well (and of course, all other casters). MoM=Mastery of Magery, WP=Wild Power, AA=Augment Acuity.

The only difference for Minstrels could in damage gained from Acuity.

Cost _ bonus _____ MoM _ WP _ AA _ best so far
0 ____ 0.0% _____ 0 ____ 0 ___ 0 ___ 0.0%
1 ____ 2.0% _____ 1 ____ 0 ___ 0 ___ 2.0%
2 ____ 2.9% _____ 1 ____ 1 ___ 0 ___ 2.9%
2 ____ 2.8% _____ 1 ____ 0 ___ 1 ___ 2.9%
3 ____ 3.7% _____ 1 ____ 1 ___ 1 ___ 3.7%
4 ____ 4.0% _____ 2 ____ 0 ___ 0 ___ 4.0%
5 ____ 4.9% _____ 2 ____ 1 ___ 0 ___ 4.9%
5 ____ 4.8% _____ 2 ____ 0 ___ 1 ___ 4.9%
6 ____ 5.8% _____ 2 ____ 1 ___ 1 ___ 5.8%
8 ____ 6.8% _____ 2 ____ 2 ___ 0 ___ 6.8%
9 ____ 7.7% _____ 2 ____ 2 ___ 1 ___ 7.7%
9 ____ 7.5% _____ 2 ____ 1 ___ 2 ___ 7.7%
10 ___ 7.0% _____ 3 ____ 0 ___ 0 ___ 7.7%
11 ___ 8.0% _____ 3 ____ 1 ___ 0 ___ 8.0%
11 ___ 7.9% _____ 3 ____ 0 ___ 1 ___ 8.0%
12 ___ 9.4% _____ 2 ____ 2 ___ 2 ___ 9.4%
12 ___ 8.8% _____ 3 ____ 1 ___ 1 ___ 9.4%
14 ___ 9.9% _____ 3 ____ 2 ___ 0 ___ 9.9%
15 ___ 10.8% ____ 3 ____ 2 ___ 1 ___ 10.8%
15 ___ 10.6% ____ 3 ____ 1 ___ 2 ___ 10.8%
18 ___ 12.5% ____ 3 ____ 2 ___ 2 ___ 12.5%
20 ___ 12.5% ____ 3 ____ 3 ___ 0 ___ 12.5%
20 ___ 11.0% ____ 4 ____ 0 ___ 0 ___ 12.5%
21 ___ 13.4% ____ 3 ____ 3 ___ 1 ___ 13.4%
21 ___ 12.0% ____ 4 ____ 1 ___ 0 ___ 13.4%
21 ___ 11.9% ____ 4 ____ 0 ___ 1 ___ 13.4%
22 ___ 12.9% ____ 4 ____ 1 ___ 1 ___ 13.4%
24 ___ 15.2% ____ 3 ____ 3 ___ 2 ___ 15.2%
24 ___ 14.7% ____ 3 ____ 2 ___ 3 ___ 15.2%
24 ___ 14.0% ____ 4 ____ 2 ___ 0 ___ 15.2%
25 ___ 14.9% ____ 4 ____ 2 ___ 1 ___ 15.2%
25 ___ 14.7% ____ 4 ____ 1 ___ 2 ___ 15.2%
28 ___ 16.7% ____ 4 ____ 2 ___ 2 ___ 16.7%
30 ___ 17.4% ____ 3 ____ 3 ___ 3 ___ 17.4%
30 ___ 16.7% ____ 4 ____ 3 ___ 0 ___ 17.4%
31 ___ 17.6% ____ 4 ____ 3 ___ 1 ___ 17.6%
34 ___ 19.5% ____ 4 ____ 3 ___ 2 ___ 19.5%
34 ___ 19.0% ____ 4 ____ 2 ___ 3 ___ 19.5%
34 ___ 15.0% ____ 5 ____ 0 ___ 0 ___ 19.5%
35 ___ 16.0% ____ 5 ____ 1 ___ 0 ___ 19.5%
35 ___ 15.9% ____ 5 ____ 0 ___ 1 ___ 19.5%
36 ___ 17.0% ____ 5 ____ 1 ___ 1 ___ 19.5%
38 ___ 18.1% ____ 5 ____ 2 ___ 0 ___ 19.5%
39 ___ 19.0% ____ 5 ____ 2 ___ 1 ___ 19.5%
39 ___ 18.8% ____ 5 ____ 1 ___ 2 ___ 19.5%
40 ___ 21.8% ____ 4 ____ 3 ___ 3 ___ 21.8%
40 ___ 20.0% ____ 4 ____ 4 ___ 0 ___ 21.8%
41 ___ 21.0% ____ 4 ____ 4 ___ 1 ___ 21.8%
42 ___ 20.9% ____ 5 ____ 2 ___ 2 ___ 21.8%
44 ___ 22.9% ____ 4 ____ 4 ___ 2 ___ 22.9%
44 ___ 20.9% ____ 5 ____ 3 ___ 0 ___ 22.9%
45 ___ 21.8% ____ 5 ____ 3 ___ 1 ___ 22.9%
48 ___ 23.8% ____ 5 ____ 3 ___ 2 ___ 23.8%
48 ___ 23.3% ____ 5 ____ 2 ___ 3 ___ 23.8%
50 ___ 25.3% ____ 4 ____ 4 ___ 3 ___ 25.3%
50 ___ 24.6% ____ 4 ____ 3 ___ 4 ___ 25.3%
54 ___ 26.2% ____ 5 ____ 3 ___ 3 ___ 26.2%
54 ___ 24.3% ____ 5 ____ 4 ___ 0 ___ 26.2%
55 ___ 25.3% ____ 5 ____ 4 ___ 1 ___ 26.2%
58 ___ 27.3% ____ 5 ____ 4 ___ 2 ___ 27.3%
60 ___ 28.2% ____ 4 ____ 4 ___ 4 ___ 28.2%

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Postby MT-Pear » May 16, 2011 22:33

Ah, very interesting =) thx 4 this! ;)

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Postby tonhl » May 16, 2011 23:33

First of all, tx a lot everyone for the infos...very interesting!
About the table posted from necro TL, i didnt understand the cost that goes from 0 to 60, what is actually?
Btw, yes is worth speccing mom ehehe :)

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Postby MT-Pear » May 16, 2011 23:34

Ok, done some small test on uthgard ^^
1 point in charisma highers your dd dmg for ~0,3% (defenetly not final! cause I have MoM2, not sure if its diffrent without MoM! and dunno if its higher/lower to top or bottom!)

btw Nymeros: somethings wrong with this table ... 0,9% more dmg with WP1? Maybe vs Mobs?
Cause max crit vs mob: 100% dmg, max crit vs player 50% dmg.

But at the first guess: AA is worth some points ;)

But I'll test it more next days.

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Postby Nymeros » May 16, 2011 23:42

0-60 is the Realm point cost.

And yup, it could be for PvE, it's a Necro TL post after all. :grin:

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Postby tonhl » May 17, 2011 00:32

MT-Pear wrote:Ok, done some small test on uthgard ^^
1 point in charisma highers your dd dmg for ~0,3% (defenetly not final! cause I have MoM2, not sure if its diffrent without MoM! and dunno if its higher/lower to top or bottom!)

btw Nymeros: somethings wrong with this table ... 0,9% more dmg with WP1? Maybe vs Mobs?
Cause max crit vs mob: 100% dmg, max crit vs player 50% dmg.

But at the first guess: AA is worth some points ;)

But I'll test it more next days.


Tx for the test m8! and tx for the info nymeros...

Keep us updatet Mt-Pear im very interested! :)

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Postby MT-Pear » May 17, 2011 01:06

small update: what i wrote before was totaly bullshit :D you'll see it later at my testresults xD

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Postby MT-Pear » May 17, 2011 02:24

Allright, here are the results from Pendragon :)

You don't get percently more dmg per Acuity, you just do more dmg in points.

For each AcuityPoint you get ~0.75 more DmgPoints.

Don't forget: the more aug acuity you spec, the more effectiveness have WP and MoM ;)

Ah, as info: Target was a lvl50 mob without Resis (Dolls outside Camelot).
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Postby tonhl » May 17, 2011 09:38

Thank you mate!!

So Aug Acuity gives you more dmg per shout, and mom adds a percentage to shouts dmg.
So for example, if i have mom2 that is +4% shout dmg and i do for example 100dmg i will do 104 dmg.
Wp2 Gives a basic 9% of Crit dmg,that if happens wil do: dmg+(50% of dmg). So for example if i have only WP and i do 100 dmg i will do 150 dmg if i crit, right?

Have i understood correctly? :)

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