Emain oder Battleground?

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Emain oder Battleground? / Emain or Battleground?

Ich will weiterhin in Emain RvR machen / I want to stay in Emain for RvR
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49%
Ich würde lieber in einem Battleground RvR machen / I'd choose a Battleground for high level RvR over Emain
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51%
 
Total votes : 72

Presto
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Postby Presto » Sep 22, 2006 04:05

I disagree with the RA system.. alright, midgard had some sucky RA in OF.. thats right while Hib and especially Alb hat some real good stuff. Still tactics where very much different back then.. and playing in another realm actually made a few more differences than nowadays. Also RA where more powerful in general. In OF your RR7 meant something.. in NF it is juft OMFG go home noob ^^

The instant teleporting move-my-zerg system is utter suckage. It blows even more than an airbus turbine. Nowadys people are complaining "Oh my ****** god, I have to wait 5 minutes to be in RvR again." Still measures like those porting times killed of spam situations. Also insta porting to keeps sucks. All hail the farm machinery.

Well... as for the maps.. look for yourself.. where is the "little" rvr in midgard from the old times? Gone it is because someone has to feed the stupid "I want instant incs with zerg" trolls. See some paralells to the current situation here? Well I do ;)

Some folks just don't realize that RP shouldn't be presented on a silver plate to anyone. I'am very shocked to witness how many uthgard players are getting the same brain-decaying disease that killed all the fun on live.

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Topa
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Postby Topa » Sep 22, 2006 10:12

So you think, there is no need to change anything in the RvR-system?

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Postby PNG » Sep 22, 2006 17:02

Lol big boy :roll: I dunno why I should run 30 mins around in emain to wipe a other zerg or to get wiped. That makes no sense and if you are one of those who don't have anything to do the whole day i can't do anything against this. I really only have time at the weekend, so i dont wan't to waste it with stupid running/waiting. I suppose the majority of Uthgard thinks like me.



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Postby Presto » Sep 22, 2006 18:18

blah, blah, blah. If it comes to fast RP no one has time and everyone can only play a few mins on the weekend. Sure, weekend players can never hope to compete with full time players.... but killing the whole work you have to invest into the game can't be the correct solution.

Uthgard is walking the path in the middle here. You have to invest time to level, to do rvr and to equip your character. The time one needs to spend here is okay.. its not too much (as with artefacts or masterlevel) and also not too short (imagine instant servers).

As I said before... remove the difficulties from a game spoils it most times, so you need to keep a balance. If you dont have the time do engage proper rvr then you should quit playing this game. MMORPG are time consuming. Uthgard is no exception here, still the time you need to put into it is compared to other games bearable.

Take the difficulties and you rip off other players of their achievements. Sad but true man, but I have the feeling that your thinking is immensly ego-centered. If you make suggestions to change a system you also have to calculate the aftermaths and other consequences. Killing off the bonus system is definatly not worth a few more incs, in facht, without the bonusses RvR would quite bland very soon. Just remember the time before the bonusses...

But well, thats the problem.. people tend to forget very fast as soon as it comes to their own needs an wishes.

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Pirith
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Postby Pirith » Sep 22, 2006 19:32

Redrawing the lvl 45+ RvR zone mean nothing, worth, it means that the staff must spend time (again) in a useless way.

Actual zone and keep system is quite good, except in my opinion the automatic tower balista, and the mob aggro system quite buggy.

There is more important things to correct and implement, better than always requesting sensless work (ie. emote nerfing, new bugged charge system, just because 3 stealthers abused a bug, and also because a major part of the community use a staff normally made for caster ONLY. Or at least this oos system worth than anything).

All those time could have been spend to reimplement alchemy charges/potions correctly, pets, finishing RA, guild house vault, and more zones with some nice loots, etc. Which must improve gameplay without imbalancing the server.

Thank's for the whole members of the staff (even if few times some updates pulled my hair off), thank's to hmm ... the person permit to the whole community to acces a better material support ... and thank's to me for being so polite.

Pirith.

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Postby panachier » Sep 22, 2006 20:12

@holu: i don't agree with you... crusing to get RP is not bad i think. and in fact it's already what appens often on uthgard. but usualy you cruise soloting or with an other guy killing 2 or 3 guys of others realms and it's not bad. it would be better with more people.



for the rvr system, i don't know what you propose in place of actual emain. changing place could be fun but if it bring lot of work... not realy needed

i agree with pirith, senseless work is boring, if there were not people who abused emotes, such work wouldnt be needed
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Postby Sethor » Sep 23, 2006 02:12

omfg - emote abuse...what funny word creation will be next? You can't abuse
something that was/is meant to express emotions. The whole emote-topic is
about babies who stole each other their cookies oO
I hate the ones reporting an emote spam and I hate those who spam emotes.
Both groups did just one thing - destroy a very kewl emote system. Hell, if
I want to just /rofl or /worship about a situation I can't do it any more, even
though especially these 2 emotes are the most funny ones :cry:

@PNG - if you dont want to run around 30min in a mmorpg the game itself
and all other mmorpgs are ther wrong gametype for you. Want instant action?
Go for Guildwars and its instant X vs X pvp system. DAoC, and all other big
mmorpgs are more than just fast pvp - socialize, explore, achieve just as
a few terms for you.
Most people dont even know what it means to play DAoC on live servers or
how it was before some of the awful "i want everything faster" patches.
I can remember my first char. A horrible wrong skilled Spiritmaster on Lyonesse.
We leveled in our frontiers with the feeling that every second a hib or alb
stealther would bust us. We had insane long downtimes compared to the
current ones - we used them to talk, exchange experiences it was an adventure!

Please little fellows, before you ever think about posting the next "i want my candy"
topic - think about what you want and if your current situation is that bad
that it needs an immediate change.
Sometimes you just have to take things like they are.


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Murax
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Postby Murax » Sep 23, 2006 02:34

I would like to set your view on another point that i recognized on other server´s while uth was down.

On other server you run 50 times against ohter realm, knowing you have no chance but hope you get some "add kills".
On uth its about: " no i do not go again, i dont want to spent RP´s". Thats quite different to other servers...

I don´t know why .. bit I imagine its because you know the most players here and dont want them to get even more stronger. On the other Hand on uthgard in most time organized grp´s run around which you don´t find like this on other server. The Uth RvR is much more better then on instant 50 freeshards, you´ll hardly find someone going for his own(on uth).

And why is it like that? Because you know your realmmates and even the opponents.... and hell... this is damn good. I can only speak for me but i like this community

On other server you find 3 and 4er Grps running at Main BG Keep, and there are lot of this small grp´s. I recognized on this shards if you form 1 good grp you rock everything there. It´s because you are organized and not try to go one your own.

And this is what makes Uth so different from ohters, what i very prefer

So I only can repeat myself: Do all you can for your realm, be kind and friendly and you´ll find nice mates with ones you really enjoy to play..

As I did

so long
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Postby poplik » Sep 23, 2006 11:12

Sethor wrote:omfg - emote abuse...what funny word creation will be next? You can't abuse
something that was/is meant to express emotions....


maybe it's lil off-topic, but I agree with Sethor, could we get our emotes back?
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draco
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Postby draco » Sep 23, 2006 15:20

I'm against the BG because than the rvr will be too concentrated and you won't be able to claim the keep. The Realm with the moste players will always have the keep and not the strongest. I can't understand the flaming of all Albs and Hibs, because of Midgard having the keeps. If the Albs(Hibs) would form good groups they would have a chance to claim keeps but I often see people going solo throug emain.

Edit:

Before changing anything at the RvR system you should try to fix the ld's and lags because this really sucks

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Postby Presto » Sep 23, 2006 20:51

I agree with Sethor... on the emote situation...

I was one of the stafflers who forced emote blocks. The fault for the blocks that where done to the systme is to be seperated between those who reported this stuff way to much or just to get someone in trouble. Also the spammers that overused the emotes to amuse themselves on the cost of other persons are to blame.

If you get a ****** lot of the messages you'll soon have enough of this ****** kindergarten (yeah thats an american word too) stuff. So let things become calm once again there was no other solution. I dunno if people learned how to correctly handle those emotes. But reading this thread an a few others shows, that most players here are still not able to handle it correctly.....

The rest are things about this situation I already said. Also Pirith is right: focussing on other game mechanics is always a way to keep and aquire players. And this autmatically serves the rvr. The rvr system itself is pretty much running fine ;)

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monty
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Postby monty » Sep 24, 2006 02:23

i don't understand most of the complaints, i started playing without braemar and wilton, the only thing you could do was level and craft...
i had loads of fun, had nice conversations with presto and somethimes other gm's and felt good in albion..;

when i got over 40 some more experienced players helped me with my template, made me an armor and imbued it, they took me to emain and corrected me when i did things wrong..

it was so much fun...

now we have braemar and wilton, we have RA's, i saw emain change, i saw people come and go....

and i saw poeple come and try to change things by whining, complaning, demanding and even by being rude and extremely unpolite to the guys that rtyed to make uthgard better in their own time and for free...

mopst of this happened without me knowing, because i don't understand enough german to follow the german posts..;

so i saw things happen like jail, events cancelled, presto leaving... things that did hurt at the time, and those things slowed the work on uthgard down a lot...

since then i don't see any worldbuilding, hardly any gm's in the game, not even in the forum...

i don't understand that people can be so egoistic to complain about the game if they know that several players can't even play the game becouse the new server connection is buggy for them...

why is the staff not responding? not even a simple message to tell they are working on it?

maybe they are fed up with all the whining and complaining and just feel happy cause the server is running again.....

things are ok as they are, just pls take care of the important stuff..

lag probs
worldbuilding
important bugs
spells and pets
taking care of friends and girlfriends
being happy you can play for free and others work for that
inform the players of what you are doeing
etc...

sorry for the long post, i cant play cause my pc is ****** up
two hard drives died in 24 hours and i can't get things fixed ...

ps, presto we miss you
me= monty, lillian and luv
dunno abouth the rest, maybe they don't care

monty

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Postby Presto » Sep 24, 2006 04:12

Well monty, remember the new politics I mentioned when I quit? My way of communication didn't work. The new policy is, that the staffs tries to keep things pretty much quiet... but they will still intervene when something gets out of hand.

That was definatly not my way of handling things (I was far too loud) and I must agree, that this method works better to make things aroudn the forums more harmonic. Still it comes with a price as you can see. But always told everyone back then, that some things might have consequences for the future that they won't like.

Still I think that most players can handle this situation better then the one before. Uthgard is doing pretty well and I'am still proud for the time I spent here as an administrator.

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Postby Raven » Sep 25, 2006 17:09

About the RA thing, It's true Alb has some tough RA's , but ill quote a sentence when Serious Sam defeats the HUGE final boss with HUGE weapons

Serious Sam said:

Its not the size that matters , its how you use em.

dont see this perverted please... cuz thats like ... perverted =/

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