Rangers lose MoS and PD with old ras.

But no selfbuffs and side stun and their mele dmg is too op and most of them strafing like hell ^^ so it's much harder to avoid side stun and also hard to hit them(target is not view)

The Best Way to Counter Side stun strafing is to learn and understand it and do it also e.g. my reaver likes it to strafe indigosnake

Austerim wrote:Rangers lose MoS and PD with old ras.

so i was remembering well from old days ...
i was sure about MOS, but not 100% about PD (if i remember well there was something similar at PD for NShades, but timed ra).

from my memories, when rangers/scouts/hunters got pd, on Daoc was introduced leggendaries weapons (don't remember if same time, but was really close). So, at the end of all, no rangers was going to spec PD because was totally useless against leg weaps.

that's why i never remember all this flame on live about PD on archers ...

lol, here Rangers playing from years with PD while all other can't use Leg. weapons

not really "LIVE LIKE" ^_^

hope OLD RA'S will up soon ...

Can say from my experience with Ranger rr4 and infi rr4 ...


Infi > ranger.

By far.

Ranger loses PD but gains better IP, avoid pain and dodger. Overall a good trade-off, although I dislike the mos changes.

Xedie wrote::wall:

How I missed those Ranger QQ threads. And no ranger is not overpowered, but he is strong.

<<< happy to see such BS again ^^ even my 4l2 hunter was able to beat most rangers of myRR+2

so whats the problem? if ranger is oped and hunter beat ranger, WHAT IS A HUNTER THEN? ^^

AAAAAAGGGGHHHH!!!! Shut up with all the nerf ranger talk. I have approached this on several occasions on these threads and basically because you lost to a ranger they are hence "OP'd". Funny how I never hear how friar, reaver, or minstril needs a nerf... Get over it. I am RR 6L6 and almost 6L7 on my ranger and I lose all the time. Now I will admit that I am not the best player on ranger, but they are not an OP class. Hunter's and Scouts have access to the same RA's that we do. IP, purge, PD they have them all. Yes, we get self buffs, but scouts get 9-10 sec shield slam and hunters get pets AND also get 2 self buffs. Yes, I know, shield slam is not effective w/ quick timers on purge, and I know the hunter's pet is not working right, but does that mean we need to break 1 class because 2 other classes arent working at 100% efficiency?

Funny how when I played my ranger on classic live on old RA's I never heard one word about how our self buffs were unfair. You know why? Because scouts and hunters were every bit as good as rangers in the stealth war. I have a suggestion, learn to play your classes better. I have had fights w/ some scouts that give me trouble and some hunters that play very well w/ the 2H dmg mele spec, but because 5 horribly played inf's and minstrils couldnt take 2 rangers then we have to be op'd. Nevermind the fact that one of those rangers is one of the the highest RR players on this server.

You want to nerf ranger, fine, go for it, but then also nerf all of Albion. Since they get 3 op'd classes compared to our supposed 1. Also, for that matter, take away stealth and safefall from minstril and give them a buff line or some minor heals since Albion is the ONLY realm out of 3 that has a stealther support class. They also have a nasty any time lvl 50 attack on their inf's and they also get a 10 sec shield stun out of their scouts.. Compared to hibs 4 sec side stun and Mids tough to pull off stun. Yah, hibs and rangers got it made so easily. GTFO!!!

Edgtho, me and you have our differences, but you and Seyha need to show people how to play their classes better. You are a stealther wrecking machine and was killing my ranger np when you were easily 2 RR's below me. Hunters need some fixes for sure, but are a great class if played and spec'd right. Scout's are also very good if played right, and scout will more then likely be the best ranged stealther if and when old RA's come into play since purge will be on a 30 minute timer.

Ronian wrote:Roll a piercing melee ranger and try to beat some viper3 noob assassins. Without IP you will lose almost every fight.

This and nothing else. Nearly unbeatable in BGs, fooder in Emain. I have a Pierceranger myself and (not only because I suck, which I don't) I have more Deaths than Kills (Maybe when IP2 is up...)

Ranger QQ is so dumb and idiotic, if you don't know how to kill them you deserve to die vs one...

since when did friar become oop? they using a full dex based weapon adn not effected buy str con dubf like otehr thanks for ws loosing? or they got faster hit rate and self bufs? chk that out friar only got selfs and ntohng else good(rangers got selfs as well) none will inv a friar on rvr groups couse they lack on dps healing they cant stlhth like other stlhers so they are wicktems to fgs and every other slthers and even agsaint pd(which friar can loose on this seting ) even mroe craped down and everyoen nows that 2 handed damge is buged big time here.

zenobya wrote:since when did friar become oop? they using a full dex based weapon adn not effected buy str con dubf like otehr thanks for ws loosing? or they got faster hit rate and self bufs? chk that out friar only got selfs and ntohng else good(rangers got selfs as well) none will inv a friar on rvr groups couse they lack on dps healing they cant stlhth like other stlhers so they are wicktems to fgs and every other slthers and even agsaint pd(which friar can loose on this seting ) even mroe craped down and everyoen nows that 2 handed damge is buged big time here.

lol, ppl crying about friars make me really have some fun
what is clear is that 90% of ppl here never played live on old days (what this server want to emulate).

l'd very like can cast a funny "spell" ... something like:

let me play here for 1 night with my old rr6 1.6x Friar

only 1 night

after this, a lot of ppl will start to understand what mean WS working, what mean unbalanced ra's (viper 3 bugged, PD on archers while is impossible play leggendary weapons etc.) what mean rangers out of any control etc etc ...

... but, again, is only a dream


repeat:

after have seeing a Ranger kill a Merc, i understand every flame is pointless

sry for my english

You should give up Roflcopter =) Rangers are overpowered since the begin of Uthgard , I did 100000x thread for complain about it but all answer you gonna have will be : stfu noob and learn to play .
When you have an ubba OP char , u dont want to lose it .. thats all .. Good luck and all i can say to you : dont be fair with [ little bunny blabla ( shangri la ) ] . If you can , get viper 3 and switch every hit if you are an assassin .. if you are another class => bindstone express, Thx PD+IP , Iwin combinaison , like sorcerer rr5 + MoC 3

This thread is alive too long, why not locked yet?????

rangers = free rps for me