Targetting a specific patch is making mistakes again if no custom follow.That's what Uthgard is going to do!Reach 1.69 ,no deal about it !
Every patch of mythic get some nerf/up of classes,if you don't make some custom change,thing will be stucked in a patch where some classes are OP and other are weak/bugged.
But IMO there's a lot of things to fix before implement of new bugs (WS/def rate - bugged pets -resist rate of cast - bolts) in oder to stop the DW/evading classes reign.

Thats what we say the whole time. First reach a bug free server. Then think about tweaking.

Blue wrote:Thats what we say the whole time. First reach a bug free server. Then think about tweaking.

You do know that holding on to gamebreaking imbalances until the end of times (aka until the server is bugfree) is going to bring the most harm to the server and its population, right?

Zarkor wrote:

Blue wrote:Thats what we say the whole time. First reach a bug free server. Then think about tweaking.

You do know that holding on to gamebreaking imbalances until the end of times (aka until the server is bugfree) is going to bring the most harm to the server and its population, right?

What on the word first was not understandable? Also you see on the poison change that we react to imbalances.

Blue wrote:

Zarkor wrote:

Blue wrote:Thats what we say the whole time. First reach a bug free server. Then think about tweaking.

You do know that holding on to gamebreaking imbalances until the end of times (aka until the server is bugfree) is going to bring the most harm to the server and its population, right?

What on the word first was not understandable? Also you see on the poison change that we react to imbalances.

It's true that you reacted to the poison imbalance, but then why are you saying you wont tweak things before the server is bugfree? I mean in theory that's a great goal, in reality though it just doesn't cut it...

I guess I'm confused.

I believe what our fine moderator is trying to say is that they are trying to fix the imbalances...that is not what they consider tweaking. By tweaking they mean adding custom "only to uthgard" elements that people in the previous posts were asking for.

Server Stability > Perfect Character Balance > Custom Tweaks

That is how I read what he had said.

MrFixit wrote:I believe what our fine moderator is trying to say is that they are trying to fix the imbalances...that is not what they consider tweaking. By tweaking they mean adding custom "only to uthgard" elements that people in the previous posts were asking for.

Server Stability > Perfect Character Balance > Custom Tweaks

That is how I read what he had said.

Would surprise me since for example Tajendi is an Uthgard only feature and a no-det-for-hybrids-RA set pretty much screws over class balance.

Det on hybrid is unbalancing for heavy tanks.As soon as heavy tanks have no other utility than dps or def,they deserve DET as a classe bonus.As i told many time,an hybrid tank still got utility if rooted(cast,chants,debuffs...),an heavy tank don't.

I appreciate it. This will finally bring me back to Uthgard. Nice news

@Kaltess: Thank you for the clarification.

@Amish: See you soon™ back on Uthgard.

Kaltess wrote:Det on hybrid is unbalancing for heavy tanks.As soon as heavy tanks have no other utility than dps or def,they deserve DET as a classe bonus.As i told many time,an hybrid tank still got utility if rooted(cast,chants,debuffs...),an heavy tank don't.

This is such a blatant over-simplification of the DET issue that I find it discouraging a member of the staff would refer to it as a clarification. The benefit of stoicism far outweighs any contribution a hybrid could make while rooted to the ground. This is proven by the success of Warriors over Thanes as the slam-bot of choice in Mid groups. By your logic the Thane should be the more popular choice since it can DD while rooted. Of course this is not the case.

The reason for the Armsman being a failure on Uthgard has to do with how Albion is balanced as a realm. Mercs can spec shield, so already the Armsman's primary role as slam-bot is made redundant by his realm's DPS tank. The Paladin has the all-important endu chant and can also play defense tank. There is simply no room for the Armsman in a standard Alb setup. It is a unique problem for the Armsman class, not a balance issue for hybrids.

Kaltess wrote:Det on hybrid is unbalancing for heavy tanks.As soon as heavy tanks have no other utility than dps or def,they deserve DET as a classe bonus.As i told many time,an hybrid tank still got utility if rooted(cast,chants,debuffs...),an heavy tank don't.

sry but this is just wrong.

Kaltess wrote:Det on hybrid is unbalancing for heavy tanks.As soon as heavy tanks have no other utility than dps or def,they deserve DET as a classe bonus.As i told many time,an hybrid tank still got utility if rooted(cast,chants,debuffs...),an heavy tank don't.

Sethor wrote:@Kaltess: Thank you for the clarification.

Thank you for clarifying that you're completely clueless when it comes to RvR balance.

Different people have got different opinions. You have proven once again to not be able to maintain an objective manner when it comes to discussing difficult themes such as 'Determination and its role for a hybrid class', Zarkor.

Thank you for clarifying that it is time to take greater attention to forum moderation.

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