Hello community,

I have a question.

I never saw a Armsman or Paldin using 2handed Weapons... So i asked into broad and ally, and everyone said the damage is bugged (damage is way too low), i didnt find any existing thread so im asking here if maybe someone can tell me what is wrong with 2hand and if there are already live-tests, and so on...

Thanks for helping n reading =)

I think the current state is something like this:
- the calculated damage of a hit is correct
- the defense penetration is not correct, so one doesnt get as many hits on the enemy as one should

well don't know about bugged but:
paladins don't use 2handed because they need to run sword and bord for guard.
armsmen don't use 2handed because polearm has superior styles and slower weapons.

The way i understand him, he means polearm + 2h when he talks about 2handed weapons he should clarify that

Because 2h isn't worth it when 90% of your opponents have capped evade/blockrates due to weaponskill not working as a defense penetrating tool. 2h is still great spike damage/dps against casters or slammed targets (fullbuffed I can easily kill mages/stealthers with slam + 3 hits). Anything that's not a caster and is facing you or has enhanced evade will only make you pull your hair out though.

nono the most misunderstood me.

I dont mean polearms, i mean the skill and weapons "2handed"

And i dont mean only using 2handes, i mean it like using it with a hybrid spec with slam....

I think the 2hand Styles hav also a high utility, i just wanted to know about know issues about the damage

And I already gave you an answer.

only utility for paladin there is backsnare, I tried it but when you sheathe your shield to snare, people start to die... it's better to spec thrust and do the thrust snare chain.

lemonjelly u gave me two times answers that dont answer anything about the initial question.
i dont want to know anything about utility or sth else.

rector gave us a hint to the problem, but i want to know whats is the point in this issue with 2hand weapon

No he did not give you a hint, he gave you the answer.

Rector wrote:the calculated damage of a hit is correct

try to chk unstyled and styled damge cap on a level 1 or 2 mob and you will see the 1 bug on 2 handed weapons(damge cap is not correct-might be about ws/af mechanics donno about programin language)
and another reason it is nto favoured is defens mechanics not working properly on some occasions(in case of parry )

i tested it on my friar by specing her to mopary 5 with 33+16 parry with 305 dex(friar)
in calculations it was showing %24 fom mopary %24.5 fom parry spec %5 fom base %10 fom dex in total of %50 max on rvr and %62 on pve even tough i am parring once in 10 hits(?) in both parts
and against a block bot(scout pala arsmen merc/warrior hero) i am able to land once in 5 hits? (tested this mroe then 1k times(both 30 staf and 44 staf spec) ,

most people whine about 2 handed weapon damge and telling albs need to duble spec to compansate but as a rr6 friar with 305 dex and 1400 ws against a nonubfed rr5 warrior (nearly same ws as me) (he wears chain we both use 5.5 speed weapons) i do 200 220 he does 360?
explain that to me(if melee damge compose of ws then we shoudl be doing same damge and nearly close ones(i got penaly of chain by %10 but he was usgn sword so no bonus over me and i ahve higher af(622 on mp chain while with my spec af i got 639)

and another part as beign friar i dont need to spec for secondary spec like thrsut slash crush for doign 2 handed damge.

I bet he hit not even close to as fast as you. Also in RvR nobody is unbuffed (str pot, Str/con pot or charge etc.). Additionaly he has more absorb on his Armor then you. And all tests done so far have shown that the damage is calculated correctly. Wheres your proof that it is not?

Asloan wrote:I bet he hit not even close to as fast as you. Also in RvR nobody is unbuffed (str pot, Str/con pot or charge etc.). Additionaly he has more absorb on his Armor then you. And all tests done so far have shown that the damage is calculated correctly. Wheres your proof that it is not?

not correct ...
without buff, chain armour is = (or very similar, don't remember now the exact af factor, i just remember it from live) to leather + af buffs (there are 2 AF buffs) of friar.

everything is just broken here on damage, and, expecially, on WS skill/defence penetration, for every class that is not on Midgard side ...

hey, but, we are talking about a server where rangers kill 1on1 mercs so ...

nothing strange

realac0 wrote:hey, but, we are talking about a server where rangers kill 1on1 mercs so ...

nothing strange

yeah , but as long ranger is a hibclass, he will stay on wrong styles (sidestunstyle), wrong dmgtable, and other bugs (like rr5use without camureset, fixed just 2 weeks ago, as example )

Methusalem wrote:wrong dmgtable

Proof?