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Finalement
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Postby Finalement » Mar 25, 2011 18:39

So, better go 35 Blade or Blunt?

And is 44 Music, 33 Songs, 9 Heals and 35 Weapon a decent Battle Bard spec?

No comments like "Battle Bards are useless", I know that -.-

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Postby Lemonjelly » Mar 25, 2011 18:56

Blades for 4 sec afterblock stun (crush is 2sec). Other than that pretty much best battlebard spec. The only second option is 37 music > 39 blades for a little bit more melee damage and better anytimer combo.

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Postby pweet » Mar 25, 2011 19:04

Log in and ask Inotor :)

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Postby Razzer » Mar 25, 2011 19:57

Yes I would go for the same spec:

33 Nurture (Speed 4, Endu 4)
44 Music (last insta DD)
35 Blades (uber dmg ;) )
9 Regrowth (Cure Disease, Poison)
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Postby Celteen » Mar 25, 2011 19:57

43 nurture 37 music 33 regrowth + bring a bm will be much more fun than solo bard :o
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Postby Sonic1982 » Mar 26, 2011 10:14

I tested a lot of different Speccs with my Bard, also like 50 Weap, but even with Higher RR its not really a Battle Bard, more a Epicfight of Survive the next inc :)
39 Blade, 33 Nurture, 37 Music, 18 Regrowth
50 Blade, 33 Nurture, 25 Music, 11 Regrowth
Both Speccs a bit difficult to play, with 25 Music you loose your instant mezz and can just afterstyle block to mezz single attacker, so very hard to play. Important for these kind of speccs is your Equip. Cap str/dex/con/qui/char/hp/resists and +11 blade/nurture/music/regrowth, healbarrel, enduregbarrel, str/con barrel, dex/qui barrel, specc af, and in some cases also dmg add charge and dot/dd charge, and a book of chaos to destealth skilled adders :P
My personal next tryout would be 37 Music, 43 Nurture, 26 Blade, 20 Regrowth, Weaponspecc is a funny thing, but at least Bard is a nice Grp Char, and solo is a option when they start with old ra's :)
If you make any tests :) let me know about it, always interested on infos about bard :D
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Postby Finalement » Mar 26, 2011 14:30

Celteen wrote:43 nurture 37 music 33 regrowth + bring a bm will be much more fun than solo bard :o


My Bard actually has this spec atm :D

I'm not a good Bardplayer (or better: I'm one of the worst xD) so my Bard is only 4L4 which isn't good for any Battlebard-specs xD

I just wondered because with Old RA and less Purge such a Bard could pwn a bit.
Ofc you will need specbuffs and Charges over Charges for this^^

@Sonitsch: Mh, is 39 Blades worth it to lose the last Instant DD? I never had a Blade-specced char, so I can't tell^^
The slow of the 39ish Style should be awesome if someone wants to run away, but who runs away from a Battle-Bard :D

Maybe I just go out with my Bard in grp to gather some RR and then I try Battle-Bard


Ah ye, what RAs to spec?
With rr5 I thought about:
SoS 1 (I guess a must)
Purge 1 (or maybe 3 would be better?)
IP 2
MoFocus 2 for Instant DD and Mezz
Aug Str 3
Long Wind 1

Maybe screw IP 2 for more LW and some MoPain?
Really got no clue :D But MoFocus and SoS should be standart.

Also Old RAs:

AM (I guess this will be the new must for a Bard :D
MoBlock 3 (MoBlock 3 + Uthgard Supporterblock should be nice)
Tireless (1/2/3?)
LW
Dex 2 as preq for MoBlock

What do you think?

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Postby Lasastard » Mar 26, 2011 18:08

pweet wrote:Log in and ask Inotor :)


Don't give him ideas, Inotor stays RvR-Spec! ^^
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Postby Gartenkralle » Mar 29, 2011 22:22

Lasastard wrote:
pweet wrote:Log in and ask Inotor :)


Don't give him ideas, Inotor stays RvR-Spec! ^^



Good point :>


Ontopic:

I would go for Blades as Weapon!
The sidestyle (Snare) is very good!
With Blunt it´s just the Follow of the Sidestyle so you need much more to snare him and kite a little :)

I want to try a Battlebard too, but the Equip will be very expensive, so its a thing I´ll go for in some Month or so!


But my Specc would be the same as you said in your first Post!
OR:

39 Blades
33 Nurture
37 Musik (Both instamezz)
18 Regrowth (rest)


RAs would be:

Purge3
SoS1
lw1/2
First Aid 2

Something like that! :)

With old RAs i have no clue

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Postby grav » Aug 30, 2011 11:47

how do you see this spec ?

43 nurt (speed 5 is a must for a bard imho)
9 reg ( cure disase/poison)
44 music (lasd dd)
21 blade (side snare and 4 sec stun after block)

21 blade + 11 + rr5 = 36/50 (72%) with a fast weapon should be a decent melee demage, a lot of warden spec 21 weapon and says is good...

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Postby Aragorn » Aug 30, 2011 15:08

only thing i want to add...

You will need atleast 1 Instant mezz as a Battle Bard, because you'll need to heal yourself ^^
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Postby Sonic1982 » Oct 02, 2011 13:32

Since i've specced my Bard to 25 Blades i avoid instant mezzes. Their duration on my 37 music specc is sometimes just to short to recover completly. Also you cannot run really fast away cause good players restealth or rupt you by dd charges during you heal up, so i prefere afterblock stun (4sec duration) and singlemezz, this grants you enough time to play endurance or use an endupot and heal yourself up. Instant mezzes are just for the case of emergency or if you fight a class that block/evade every afterblock hit of you.
Also i could advice to avoid 9 regrowth cause then you need just more time to heal you up and it costs all your mana.
My Bard is atm:
43nurt
25blades
37music
20regrowth
an this works nice on high rr and all charge template (s/c charge is must have)
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Postby Sholah » Oct 10, 2011 19:46

The bard is the magically gifted musician Hibernia. With his songs he confused and hampered the enemy. He also has healing abilities.

Best is the spec: combat-bard:

45 music
35 dieting
12 regrowth
39 weapon

The "infamous" battle bard. By sacrificing the most songs you learn in this spec his weapon better. The struggle is particularly suitable for bard solo and an interesting variation, but requires a fairly high realm rank, in order to obtain urgently needed RAs (eg ignore pain, masters of pain).

Distribution of starting points:
dexterity +10
constitution +10
charisma +10

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Postby Sonic1982 » Oct 11, 2011 00:00

Respecced on "solo" after gained RR10
33 Nurture
44 Music
30 Blades
20 Regrowth
RA: Purge3 MoPain3 Str3 WP2 LW2 IP2 FA1 SoS1 McL1
Expensive SC with all Charges and HP Tab on Basaltsword and healproc on Torso.

And it still is quite difficult to fight some classes, got some nice fights, indeed but also a lot of "damn getting raped" situations.
Solo Chars on an equal RR are Impossible to kill, and sometimes its quite boring when you DD kite an arms that use his xbow and healpots wisely (took 10min+....).
You can rape some noobs that cannot handle their char, but a good player has always too many ways to outdmg you. In good fights when afterblock + sidesnare worked perfect and kite + fa/healup you can do kills without dumping ip/sos/instant cc's. But the usual fight is dumping purge/ip/fa/sos and die on next inc when nothing is up/die infight by skilled adder.

Maybe i find another specc that makes it possible to have a balanced chance to win fights. But its fun to have a challenge even when its quite boring to run with speed4 instead speed5 :)
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