Anti x-realming mechanism

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Postby Kaltess » Mar 24, 2011 20:05

Hi all !
Looking at Rector's rvr statistics give me an idea to prevent the x realming.
As you can see on his graph.,realms are unbalanced because people always move to the "Relic realm"
Hib is actually 37% of server(mana relics)
Alb is actually 35% of server (str relics)
Mid is 28% (underdog)
Why don't implement a bonus to under populated realms to balance them and avoid x realming?
Hib is the most populated so don't get bonus (only relic effects)
Alb got 2% less population= 2% bonus damage + relic effect
Mid got 9% less population=9% bonus damage

Make an instant calculation for those bonuses with an info in changelog,and realms will balance automatically,because if you play mid and move to a relic realm ,you will make mids strongers (for example).

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Postby Blue » Mar 24, 2011 20:06

Could make a coin drop bonus.
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Postby Rector » Mar 24, 2011 20:07

Removing Relics completly would have the same effect or not? ^^

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Postby Kaltess » Mar 24, 2011 20:10

Removing relics will remove game purpose...(already removed by 8v8PRO 's behaviour) :roll:

Coin or EXP bonus will be useless for RvR players and finally not avoid xrealming
Bps/Rps bonus could be an option.

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Postby Rector » Mar 24, 2011 20:12

But the advantage of relics is a bonus.
If you give the other realms also a bonus, the advantage is = 0.
Then you can remove relics completly ^^

I would rather like to see a mechanic, that forces a player to play in one realm only in a certain time period.

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Postby Kaltess » Mar 24, 2011 20:17

Put relic bonuses livelike (+20% instead of +10% for 3 relics owned) and you will not loose benefit.
Maybe more Relic Raids instead. :wink:

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Postby Lemonjelly » Mar 24, 2011 20:19

Rector wrote:I would rather like to see a mechanic, that forces a player to play in one realm only in a certain time period.

That's a good idea if you want to halve the server's population instantly.

I don't care about relics because bonuses and negligible for the time and effort required to get them. I don't get what all the fuss is about "crossrealm" because of relics, I don't think many people do switch realms because of realm bonuses because any mildly intelligent person can see that a 10% damage boost is not that much really.
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Postby Blue » Mar 24, 2011 20:20

Kaltess wrote:Removing relics will remove game purpose...(already removed by 8v8PRO 's behaviour) :roll:

Coin or EXP bonus will be useless for RvR players and finally not avoid xrealming
Bps/Rps bonus could be an option.

Why would coin bonus be useless? I think about giving extra coins on every RvR kill. Money income by RvRing is a hot topic.
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"It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something
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Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand"

[Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????"
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Postby Rector » Mar 24, 2011 20:22

Blue wrote:Why would coin bonus be useless? I think about giving extra coins on every RvR kill. Money income by RvRing is a hot topic.

Mids would appreciate that ;)
Then it would be better for us, if we had 0 relics.
Because 0 mid relic means: lots of enemies in Emain!
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Postby Blue » Mar 24, 2011 20:23

Lemonjelly wrote:
Rector wrote:I would rather like to see a mechanic, that forces a player to play in one realm only in a certain time period.

That's a good idea if you want to halve the server's population instantly.

I don't care about relics because bonuses and negligible for the time and effort required to get them. I don't get what all the fuss is about "crossrealm" because of relics, I don't think many people do switch realms because of realm bonuses because any mildly intelligent person can see that a 10% damage boost is not that much really.

This was quite normal on live servers. X-realming is bad behaviour on Uth.
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later.

"It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something
is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure."


Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard"
Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand"

[Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????"
BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

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Postby Lemonjelly » Mar 24, 2011 20:27

X-realming is one thing, people playing multiple realms just because they can is another. X-realmers are very few and actual communication between them isn't done ingame anyway seeing as that would require a lot of logging on and off.

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Postby Judoon » Mar 24, 2011 20:32

x-realming is to me the worst thing that has ever been allowed
Fighting for your realm ( 1 realm only ) is what the game is about

Realm pride

This was quite normal on live servers. X-realming is bad behaviour on Uth.


Ban x-realming

X-realming is one thing, people playing multiple realms just because they can is another. X-realmers are very few and actual communication between them isn't done ingame anyway seeing as that would require a lot of logging on and off.


Surely you can just run 2 installs at the same time so it is possible and i'm sure some people do

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Postby Rizla » Mar 24, 2011 20:52

Kaltess wrote:Hi all !
Looking at Rector's rvr statistics give me an idea to prevent the x realming.
As you can see on his graph.,realms are unbalanced because people always move to the "Relic realm"


May i ask to specify the graph you are refering to please?

Alot of people change realm to the realm without relics so they have more enemies aswell. Actually, if you look here you can see that midgard is doing very good with the lowest population active in end-game rvr. I'd say relics can influence players decisions on where to play, but alot of other things do aswell.

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Postby Eclipsed » Mar 24, 2011 20:59

If possible i think you should implement something that, if IP address X logs on, then off in hib for example. After the login, there is a 3 or more hour timer, before they are allowed to log into mid or alb. That should be enough time to prevent quick xrealming, because of DF changes, or there group in RVR getting killed and wanting to switch to that realm to join in RvR so they are on the winning team, on an alt. This can be bypassed if you can change your IP easly , but should at least stop a few people.

Remember, live does not allow cross realming on the same server.

On the low population bonus. Do we want to improve the low population of a realm in PVE or RVR. Coin or XP will take more out of rvr i think. A small RP bonus may encourage the low pop to join RvR. A damage bonus would make the low pop have a damage bonus and the one with a relic, with the third could be without anything. Also a bonus should not make fighting easier. Also giving damage bonus, takes away the bonus for working to get a relic.
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Postby Lemonjelly » Mar 24, 2011 21:04

Judoon wrote:Realm pride

Surely you can just run 2 installs at the same time so it is possible and i'm sure some people do

Derp realm pride, no it's not possible to log onto two different realms on the same pc.


Eclipsed wrote:If possible i think you should implement something that, if IP address X logs on, then off in hib for example. After the login, there is a 3 or more hour timer, before they are allowed to log into mid or alb. That should be enough time to prevent quick xrealming, because of DF changes, or there group in RVR getting killed and wanting to switch to that realm to join in RvR so they are on the winning team, on an alt. This can be bypassed if you can change your IP easly , but should at least stop a few people.

Been suggested so many times before, dumbest suggestion ever. Like I said very few people actually xrealm for some sort of "benefit".

What if rvr is dead and I wanna go exp a char in a different realm ? Oh wait, I can't because of conspiracy theories :roll:

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