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Postby Finalement » Mar 16, 2011 01:14

Methusalem wrote:
Finalement wrote:I really don't get what's so difficult about this. There are so many options to disable it...

- Skillcheck, at least 2 Skill in Envenom
- Poison-loss after trade
- Poison-loss after loging (nearly no solution tbh^^)
- bans vs. abusers

Seriously, what's the problem? Why don't you stop that lamelamelame already?



cause livelike is bigger than balanced gameplay


Normaly I don't like your destructive comments.

But you are damn right sometimes..

It should be half an hour (maybe less) to fix this..

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Postby Garad » Mar 16, 2011 08:27

Methusalem wrote:cause livelike is bigger than balanced gameplay


Problem ist, IF uthgard would be livelike, it would be no problem. Because livelike would running fullbufed by a bot, which reduce the effectivness of dot-poison to due increased HPs.
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Postby GoGreen » Mar 16, 2011 10:18

Garad wrote:
Methusalem wrote:cause livelike is bigger than balanced gameplay


Problem ist, IF uthgard would be livelike, it would be no problem. Because livelike would running fullbufed by a bot, which reduce the effectivness of dot-poison to due increased HPs.

On live I would just have powerleveld a bb + poison bot to pwn hard. But I started on Uthgard because it is buffbot free. Well it turned out that there are some hidden buffbots existing who will poison your weapon and triple your damage.

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Postby Lemonjelly » Mar 16, 2011 11:09

Uthgard isn't buffbot free. Only difference is buffbots come in barrels/items not as another character. Besides, the only reason uthgard staff is against buffbots really is because they want to force people to group with others while leveling, has nothing to do with rvr. Furthermore it's impossible to have an effective shaman/cleric/druid buffbot in rvr since buff range is limited to 3000(?) units. It's more of a "forced to waste time searching for people/forced to interact with people you don't want to" server than a "buffbot free" server.

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Postby vangonaj » Mar 16, 2011 12:07

Lemonjelly wrote:Uthgard isn't buffbot free. Only difference is buffbots come in barrels/items not as another character.


Pots and charges aren`t buffbots. For have them you must work and spend time. Have 1 shaman sticked to you its other story.
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Postby Zarkor » Mar 16, 2011 14:58

vangonaj wrote:
Lemonjelly wrote:Uthgard isn't buffbot free. Only difference is buffbots come in barrels/items not as another character.


Pots and charges aren`t buffbots. For have them you must work and spend time. Have 1 shaman sticked to you its other story.

True, competing with Uthgard selfbuff system is a lot more annoying than BuffBots were... :gaga:
In defense of truth-to-experience.

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Postby Lemonjelly » Mar 16, 2011 15:47

vangonaj wrote:
Lemonjelly wrote:Uthgard isn't buffbot free. Only difference is buffbots come in barrels/items not as another character.


Pots and charges aren`t buffbots. For have them you must work and spend time. Have 1 shaman sticked to you its other story.


So, basically buffbots on uthgard are strictly for no-lifers who can farm constantly. Gee, can't fight that argument.

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Postby Zarkor » Mar 18, 2011 13:08

Blue avoids this discussion... :?
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Postby MT-Pear » Mar 18, 2011 13:10

and doesnt it fit our "no-buffbot-policy" ?
to give players advantages wich dont belong to their class without a second player.

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Postby Blue » Mar 18, 2011 13:17

Zarkor wrote:Blue avoids this discussion... :?

The reason is that several players always take the "its already custom"-bat on every case they want a change for.

I see the problem in this and that it has an imbalancing influence. The solution on live came in V1.104, rather late and implementing that solution would be another customization which could in future be used against us to QQ for more custom changes.

As you refered to pets which don't magically follow stealthed players anymore this one still has the potential to get on our customization list (http://uthgard.net/index.php?option=com ... =9&t=13996).
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later.

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Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard"
Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand"

[Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????"
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Postby Zarkor » Mar 18, 2011 13:25

Blue wrote:...which could in future be used against us to QQ for more custom changes.

Ok, so it's a "possibility".

But, for crying out loud do you really not see that more QQ is impossible? I have NEVER seen as much "QQ" over a certain thing than THIS.

If you do this "customisation", there will be LESS "QQ".



PLEASE SEE THAT, PLEASE...


Thanks :cry:
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Postby vangonaj » Mar 18, 2011 13:28

Blue wrote: The solution on live came in V1.104, rather late and implementing that solution would be another customization which could in future be used against us to QQ for more custom changes.


Where is the problem? I dont see big difference between 100 and 101 custom changes XD.
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Postby Jezzmin » Mar 18, 2011 13:47

Zarkor wrote:But, for crying out loud do you really not see that more QQ is impossible? I have NEVER seen as much "QQ" over a certain thing than THIS.

If you do this "customisation", there will be LESS "QQ".


I second that ;)

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Postby pweet » Mar 18, 2011 14:00

MT-Pear wrote:and doesnt it fit our "no-buffbot-policy" ?
to give players advantages wich dont belong to their class without a second player.

this

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Postby Blue » Mar 18, 2011 14:29

vangonaj wrote:Where is the problem? I dont see big difference between 100 and 101 custom changes XD.

Exactly statement like yours prevent more custom changes on Uthgard! I pointed to a thread of intended custom changes. Everything else is a bug.
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later.

"It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something
is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure."


Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard"
Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand"

[Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????"
BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

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