As I previously said, the amount variates and it was not so different to what it is now. The original drop amount was a raw estimate. Now on average there won't be max 20 stones, but max 18 stones. Thats all that has changed. But note, the chances to drop a count at the higher end have been increased. So basically the average drop count did not change.

I can say I was unsure about the droprate I had initially set and it requires some tuning. Currently market prices reflect that the drop rate is ok. Too high drop rates lowers the reward to participate in a dragon raid. A RA/Full respec market price of 2-3p is quite fair.

Dragonraids should be done for unique dragon loot (which is obsolete on uthgard since most stuff is crap except for overpowered mid 2h weapons - ty patch limit) and not solely for respec stones, which it turns out, is their only sought after loot now. At the same time you have to pull people out of rvr to do more dragonraids/gold farming so they could afford something they could have previously earned by rvring while at the same time promising "improvements" to rvr for months. You promise one thing but your actions do the exact opposite, why is that ?

I think I explained it already. Tajendi devalues many items and drops on Uthgard same applies to spell crafting at all. This was a mistake. The focus should move back from instanced Tajendi raids (6 players) to realm organized boss raids.

Player seem to have a LOT of time to make Tajendi raids, so your argument is not really valid. The time was already spent in Tajendi. Moving these players to some dragon raids will cause no further problem. In fact it works as intended now. Also note that the respec drops on live came from Dragons. Having respecs on dragons has no harm to RvR. This is overvalued. If you dont want to join the raids you must buy them on free market.

This change has nothing to do with planned changes in RvR. 20% of the server are in OF, 80% are doing other things in other zones. This situation has not changed. The 50%-60% who do PvE or level will raid and get these stones into the game.

Comparing tajendi loot to loot that was, until recently, acquirable in rvr is kinda redundant. People who do a lot of tajendi are people who don't prioritize the benefits of rvr in the first place.

Lemonjelly wrote:Dragonraids should be done for unique dragon loot

That's it. Im researching it but im quiet sure that dragons on live drop more stones. After leading some mini dragon raids/big3 i had tons of respec stones and nobody wanted them at the roill at all.

Lemonjelly wrote:Comparing tajendi loot to loot that was, until recently, acquirable in rvr is kinda redundant. People who do a lot of tajendi are people who don't prioritize the benefits of rvr in the first place.

Thats wrong. They want to complete their uber template for RvR.

Thalien wrote:

Lemonjelly wrote:Dragonraids should be done for unique dragon loot

That's it. Im researching it but im quiet sure that dragons on live drop more stones. After leading some mini dragon raids/big3 i had tons of respec stones and nobody wanted them at the roill at all.

After a certain patch, Mythic introduced buyable respec stones, so you shouldnt wonder.

Btw now that Tajendi offers often better items than dragons I think about trimming Tajendi items. Tajendi doesnt fit into our classic setting. I understand the need of the devs to offer something appealing there but it shouldnt devalue existing raid content.

Blue wrote:Btw now that Tajendi offers often better items than dragons I think about trimming Tajendi items. Tajendi doesnt fit into our the classic setting. I understand the need of the devs to offer something appealing there but it shouldnt devalue existing raid content.

Just delete Tajendi and all related items and thats it. KISS concept. Keep it stupid simple. Work of 5 min =)

I would deffo quit if I had to redo templates, but that is maybe a good thing. Damn addictive game

Tuttar wrote:I would deffo quit if I had to redo templates, but that is maybe a good thing. Damn addictive game

There are templates for every class without Taj drops that cost you 10 % of one Taj Highend drop, so dont fool us it would be sooooo hard to get a new temp.

Theres no one who forces you to put drops into your template. It was the same on live. You must know it.

GoGreen wrote:

Tuttar wrote:I would deffo quit if I had to redo templates, but that is maybe a good thing. Damn addictive game

There are templates for every class without Taj drops that cost you 10 % of one Taj Highend drop, so dont fool us it would be sooooo hard to get a new temp.

I have taj drops in all my templates, and I would not even consider doing all those over again. So, I'm not fooling anyone, just stateing a "self-fact". And btw, you are wrong.

Taking away all Tajendi Items or "trim" them isnt a good solution. Lots of players would have there templates destroyed if their stuff got there vaules "tweaked". If the tweaks only applies to new drops the old ones will become extremly op and expensive so that isnt a option either.

You alreday opened Pandoras Box, now its to late to close it.
Only sollution would be to boost dragoon/legion drops and/or insert new content like Summoners hall and Si dungeons like gala/Sidi.
/gifv 4.2 piercers

N1 Blue *trims* Tajendi items...

Sry to say this now but: HELLOE?? GMS??? DEVS????
You guys talk to each other before someone implements stuff? You discuss it at all? -.-

You cannot implement stuff and take it away 1-2 years later... that is in fact kinda annoying... and it wouldn't be the first time something like this happened o.O

Of course I complain!
Sure it's still a free project from several people but you cannot always punish the community. This Tajendi thing went so out of place somehow - yes indeed. Many people farm their asses off, but there must be other ways to stop this. There must be other ways to get people to RvR. There must be other ways to encourage realmraids.

Why not make Tajendi accessable once a day or even week? Dunno how easy/hard this would be to implement though.

And what about "Trim" the Items with faster loss of Durability? Custom Items, Custom Change.

Sonnenschein wrote:There must be other ways to encourage realmraids.

Thats why dragon and Legion hold the respecs exclusively now. I see no problem in it.

When item degradation works people will have to think twice what drop they put in their template. Also there is no problem when certain items no longer drop or drop modified. Mythic does that all the time but in most cases they increase the stats. Our server can't do that as we never introduce ToA or certain cap extensions to push the limits.