Why does Hibernia have the only horseroute that stops before entering its tertiary frontier zone? Mid and Alb's horse routes go all the way to odin's/hadrian's. Can anyone explain the reasoning for this? To me this seems to promote inequality among the realms and should be looked at.

Please don't delete this topic GMs, it's a valid question

I would guess they decided to place it there due to the high traffic nature of emain.


though at off hours I think it could help to have a quicker travel to emain for hib, but you're not really missing much at those hours anyway.

simply: cuz every idiot runs to amg ..
why u want a horse route to these idiots ?

btw its uthhard so dont ask

i would prefer a instant port system to the last keep in a chain u controll or maybe a horse route from keep to keep ( u controll ) for maybe bps..
that would also improve the keep raid system

but anyway solos that still ride to bolg/amg are helpless

Best is change Dun Crouchon with Drum Ligen

as the horse route was implemented it ended in emain. This was not working as intendet, so they changed it.

Well the horse route went through a well crowded RvR area. So we decided to shorten the route a bit to a safer point. If you want to get catched on horse then we can extend the route again but it was not that good as we had it because everyone sees you coming and you will propably be kicked from the horse and killed. Also constantly having empty horses running through emain was not that good.

Blue wrote:Well the horse route went through a well crowded RvR area. So we decided to shorten the route a bit to a safer point. If you want to get catched on horse then we can extend the route again but it was not that good as we had it because everyone sees you coming and you will propably be kicked from the horse and killed. Also constantly having empty horses running through emain was not that good.

Is there a way you guys can make horse routes unattackable? That would seem like the best solution without favoring the other two realms (since you can simply jump off if you feel like you get attacked as you enter emain). Either do that or allow DC to be a portable keep.

If they would do this, they could also implement instantporter, just the same.

Its intended and part of the design that horse routes in RvR are attackable.

Hibernians are the only ones that have to deal with excessive horse route camping though. Maybe an instant port to DC at least? Sometimes I barely get out of DL before being knocked off my horse and attacked.

Blue wrote:Its intended and part of the design that horse routes in RvR are attackable.

So if it is intended for horse routes to be attackable, why would you shorten a realm's horse route because it was being attacked more than the others? If you can simply jump off whenever you want, I do not see why this is helping Hibernian's in any way, it is just limiting their ability to get into Emain and by changing their horse route the GM staff is admittingly promoting realm inequality and favoring action in one realm over another.

Simply shortening the horse route is not making them less prone to attack on the horse route. It is just making the treck to Emain MUCH longer, and porting from Alb or Mid is definitely faster than taking the horse route to Breif than walking all the way into Emain. I simply do not understand the logic behind this CUSTOM change, it is not solving the initial problem and shows favoratism, while Hibs get the short end of the stick (or route for that matter).

Is it really shortened? I thought its just a bit *devided* into 2 steps.
Also it end a bit more far from amg - but I suppose its better like this cause if u just come from the horse at amg you will be farmed anyways XD

Blue wrote:Its intended and part of the design that horse routes in RvR are attackable.

I still cant see why u made it like this. You shorten the timer for albs and mids and to "compensate" u give hibs a horse route who shortens the run by some minutes. But the side effects is that the only thing u done is giving albs and mids a easy way to farm rps, specially for some classes. FG´s never take horse so its only soloers and duos that will use horse and will be vulneralbe from there.

And its still not fair, i have pointen out in another tread that it takes albs and mids in average of 4 minutes to get to emain with port when it takes about 10 minutes (low counting) for hibs with horse route. Great balance here!!

I know alot of ppl never doing RvR in emain bcs of this insane system, u would have so much more ppl rvring with a better system.

So what is a better system? Its easy, add a porting necklace to a friendly controlled keep thats nearest emain. This isnt insta porting in anyway as u still have to wait for porter, u still have to run the last 2min to emain but u dont have to go thrue 2 huge zones that u dont wanna rvr in. This will encourage keep takes in your own realm and spread some of the main rvr from emain to breifine. More ppl will come to rvr and all will be happy (except the campers who loose their free rp spot ).

Man every time i buy a horse ticket to breifine im thinkning of how stoned the guy invented the system must have been

Make the Horses unattackebel and its ok And let it Ride near Dun Crim so all have the same way and time i think. Put some uncovering guards there an ready

as far as i can see, you can be lucky to have a horseroute.
horseroutes are not classic, so it is a custom change, a benefit for the players.