Hi,

There seems to be something odd with the intercept rate of the Spiritmaster pets in PvP.
On multiple tries, I found that the pet intercepts approximately 90% of the attacks, and doesn't feel the effects of style damage (bleed/stun) or proc damage is always resisted (level 47-49 procs).

Could you please check it, and I will provide the logs when I do more testing tonight.

Thanks.
Fediuld

Moved to support as this is no bugreport.

Fediuld wrote:Hi,

There seems to be something odd with the intercept rate of the Spiritmaster pets in PvP.
On multiple tries, I found that the pet intercepts approximately 90% of the attacks, and doesn't feel the effects of style damage (bleed/stun) or proc damage is always resisted (level 47-49 procs).

Could you please check it, and I will provide the logs when I do more testing tonight.

Thanks.
Fediuld

i have no logs for this thing,but for sure i can say me too something is bugged or have to be fixed...last time i met a spiritmaster ( i was with a reaver ) his pet have intercepted 17 hits on 19....after 1-1:30 minute that i was in melee with him,i die like a noob against 3-4 pbaoe...my only way for interrupt him was my aoe aura...he wasn't kiting too cause he knows that his pet intercept all -.-....really this and the shield rate have to be fixed...is impossible that a caster can kill u in a full melee fight without moc after 1-2 mins,is impossible too that a cleric or minstrel can block 4-5 hits continuously with a smallshield without training shield....wish something will be done cause these things really ruin the rvr sometime

Orphen wrote:

Fediuld wrote:Hi,

There seems to be something odd with the intercept rate of the Spiritmaster pets in PvP.
On multiple tries, I found that the pet intercepts approximately 90% of the attacks, and doesn't feel the effects of style damage (bleed/stun) or proc damage is always resisted (level 47-49 procs).

Could you please check it, and I will provide the logs when I do more testing tonight.

Thanks.
Fediuld

i have no logs for this thing,but for sure i can say me too something is bugged or have to be fixed...last time i met a spiritmaster ( i was with a reaver ) his pet have intercepted 17 hits on 19....after 1-1:30 minute that i was in melee with him,i die like a noob against 3-4 pbaoe...my only way for interrupt him was my aoe aura...he wasn't kiting too cause he knows that his pet intercept all -.-....really this and the shield rate have to be fixed...is impossible that a caster can kill u in a full melee fight without moc after 1-2 mins,is impossible too that a cleric or minstrel can block 4-5 hits continuously with a smallshield without training shield....wish something will be done cause these things really ruin the rvr sometime

NOT A RANGER QQ !!
Errrr... cc the pet, kill the sm, easy to do and I wish the SM pet did what you think it does. The SM pet may have done what you said at that time but it certainly does not intercept 90 %.
If the SM pet did what you think it would be like the ranger of Midgard.
How many active SMs are there? How many active rangers?

Ithiggi wrote:

Orphen wrote:

Fediuld wrote:Hi,

There seems to be something odd with the intercept rate of the Spiritmaster pets in PvP.
On multiple tries, I found that the pet intercepts approximately 90% of the attacks, and doesn't feel the effects of style damage (bleed/stun) or proc damage is always resisted (level 47-49 procs).

Could you please check it, and I will provide the logs when I do more testing tonight.

Thanks.
Fediuld

i have no logs for this thing,but for sure i can say me too something is bugged or have to be fixed...last time i met a spiritmaster ( i was with a reaver ) his pet have intercepted 17 hits on 19....after 1-1:30 minute that i was in melee with him,i die like a noob against 3-4 pbaoe...my only way for interrupt him was my aoe aura...he wasn't kiting too cause he knows that his pet intercept all -.-....really this and the shield rate have to be fixed...is impossible that a caster can kill u in a full melee fight without moc after 1-2 mins,is impossible too that a cleric or minstrel can block 4-5 hits continuously with a smallshield without training shield....wish something will be done cause these things really ruin the rvr sometime

NOT A RANGER QQ !!
Errrr... cc the pet, kill the sm, easy to do and I wish the SM pet did what you think it does. The SM pet may have done what you said at that time but it certainly does not intercept 90 %.
If the SM pet did what you think it would be like the ranger of Midgard.
How many active SMs are there? How many active rangers?

lol what are u saying? cc the pet? ranger qq? who talks about ranger in this thread? are u crazy? u know that the spiritmaster have root and a mezz aoe "self" too? i can't do nothing to the pet so,even slam on that is useless,anyway if is not 90% is 80% for sure,u ever played on live? i don't think it if u are saying the intercept rate is normal...then again ranger midgard? lol omg start play this game,the pet of HUNTER ( mid don't have ranger ) is not the same thing of the 1 of SM...it don't have intercept...really instead of trying to be pro here,start play this game,so next time u know about what u are talkin...

SM pet can not evade or block and here it can not parry how is it you can't slam it or use a positional to stun it ?
While playing my sm many players know how to kill it.
The trick is stun the pet... if you can't stun the pet don't try and melee a sm.
A dark sm could have moc 3 and lifetap you do death even without a pet up.
If you can't understand the ranger thing ummm I really don't know what to say.
It seems to me that you don't play here much if you don't know rangers are FOTM.
What I was saying is If the SM was intrecepting 90% the SM would become FOTM for Midgard and there would be high LWRP for the class like the ranger.
Yes I have played Live both against SM and playing them ... have you ?
You must be one of the melee that runs from my sm, how many SMs have you tried to slam the pet ?
I ask because my SM pet gets stunned from a slam and stops intercepting 0.o

Or am I getting my chain yanked and am I pulling an eclipsion ?
Anyone one with troll detection clue me in ?

P.S. time for my Meds YAY!!

Ithiggi why such a panicked reply and why you target the rangers?


SM pet is broken. Yes can be stunned, but can't be killed by a solo nor duo before the SM killed them all.
(AE Mezz, self mezz, lifetap, root, and pet healing).
And when the pet isn't stunned (not many classes have stun either way), it intercepts 80-90% of the hits.

Also you said not many people play SM. Huh. The whole place is flooded in BGs (many trio SM too).
Last weekend in DF counted 30 new SMs in the making. Is it a chance?

Also positional stun is 5 seconds, when you have less than that time to cast mezz. (if you want to go that route of argument).

The problem isn't the spell line, nor anything else. Is that on live the intercept rate was 50%, and here 80-90% which means there is something broken.

We don't argue about Mythic's stupidity on CC spells mechanics (which you can find yourself just standing there for hours until you get killed), nor asking to change other game mechanics. Just asking to look at the intercept rate. (yet to see an official reply though).

With the same way, people reported the Evade rate increase by using detaunt style, and was fixed (I hope).

stop it. just create a real bug report with tests you did, proove it wrong and it might be changed, all ur text wont help you. and ranger was just said, bc most threads are about the ranger being OP.

1000-Hit Tests should be ok, dont forget to write everything down.. (all your stats, weapon stats etc etc.. everything there is. even if it was day or nighttime, realm bonus, and all stats of the enemy caster..) and proove also with chatlogs ,screenshots etc.

Thats pretty funny I just seen 3 sms die very fast from 1 soloer one after the other.
The 3rd wasn't PAed the NS just finished the 2nd off.
I wonder how he managed and he didn't seven stun the pet 0.o
My huntress ended up killing the NS.
They should test it because I know they are wrong.

Ithiggi wrote:SM pet can not evade or block and here it can not parry how is it you can't slam it or use a positional to stun it ?
While playing my sm many players know how to kill it.
The trick is stun the pet... if you can't stun the pet don't try and melee a sm.
A dark sm could have moc 3 and lifetap you do death even without a pet up.
If you can't understand the ranger thing ummm I really don't know what to say.
It seems to me that you don't play here much if you don't know rangers are FOTM.
What I was saying is If the SM was intrecepting 90% the SM would become FOTM for Midgard and there would be high LWRP for the class like the ranger.
Yes I have played Live both against SM and playing them ... have you ?
You must be one of the melee that runs from my sm, how many SMs have you tried to slam the pet ?
I ask because my SM pet gets stunned from a slam and stops intercepting 0.o

Or am I getting my chain yanked and am I pulling an eclipsion ?
Anyone one with troll detection clue me in ?

P.S. time for my Meds YAY!!

lol u have read my reply or u read just what u want? i say sm have a root and a "self" aoe mezz...u maybe can understand that if i try to slam the pet in the mean the sm will root me or mezz me? really u think that a caster in game will stay there without doing nothing with a reaver in melee?....omg i repeat start to play this game...and i repeat what is the sense to put a ranger or hunter midgard in this discussion if we are talkin about intercept rate ( lol i don't even understand about what class u are talkin cause u call both Hunter and Ranger in the same manner )...really if u want explain yourself start to know what u are saying

Well I can only speak for my SM but I have the feeling it doesnt intercept enough XD

just do a forum search... the intercept RATE has been tested many times and unless something changed, it should still be at 50% and okay.

I notice streaks of the pet intercepting (5-6 times in a row) a lot. Just like i experienced streaks of the pet NOT intercepting (5-6 times ^^)

btw: if you manage to CC the pet (stun, mezz), 5-6 hits should kill a SM (considering most of them wont have much more than ~1200 HP buffed... unless you are a pala

and i kinda have to agree with ithiggi ^^

Phileas wrote:just do a forum search... the intercept RATE has been tested many times and unless something changed, it should still be at 50% and okay.

I notice streaks of the pet intercepting (5-6 times in a row) a lot. Just like i experienced streaks of the pet NOT intercepting (5-6 times ^^)

btw: if you manage to CC the pet (stun, mezz), 5-6 hits should kill a SM (considering most of them wont have much more than ~1200 HP buffed... unless you are a pala

and i kinda have to agree with ithiggi ^^

guys i don't know against what spiritmaster u have fought,probably the most noobs spiritmaster of all world,cause if u have time to go in melee to a spiritmaster and stun the pet,then break the bubble ( the first shot is always absborbed by bubble and if i remember well u can do the bubble on the spirit champion too,so is missed that shot too) and slam him ( if u have slam ) with the spiritmaster doing nothing,or u are just playing with 2 account so the spiritmaster is used by u and u don't move it or u just met a spiritmaster afk...really for u guys a spirit don't have the time to root u or mezz u?...i don't think even a spiritmaster go in melee with the staff lol so probably he try to kite for sure,so he have all the time to root u before u take him...so really...start play this game,what u are saying is really funny...and anyway just if u don't know...not all the classes have slam or mezz...u are talkin like every1 have both...

Orphen wrote:guys i don't know against what spiritmaster u have fought,probably the most noobs spiritmaster of all world,cause if u have time to go in melee to a spiritmaster and stun the pet,then break the bubble ( the first shot is always absborbed by bubble and if i remember well u can do the bubble on the spirit champion too,so is missed that shot too) and slam him ( if u have slam ) with the spiritmaster doing nothing,or u are just playing with 2 account so the spiritmaster is used by u and u don't move it or u just met a spiritmaster afk...really for u guys a spirit don't have the time to root u or mezz u?...i don't think even a spiritmaster go in melee with the staff lol so probably he try to kite for sure,so he have all the time to root u before u take him...so really...start play this game,what u are saying is really funny...and anyway just if u don't know...not all the classes have slam or mezz...u are talkin like every1 have both...

WOW I can barley understand complete thoughts in your block of text.
ok you are assuming that a sm can cast a bubble on its pet... SMs can't do this here or Live.
This does bring up a bug with the SM pet that should be mentioned the pet bubble self proc seems broken.
I see the proc animation but the mob or player attacking is not stopped.
There is no message of anysort pertaining to a bladeturn.
All you see is the proc animation and the damage caused by the attacker.
Now what this guy probably noticed was a RM's bubble cast on pet or pbt from pet in group with said RM.


PLEASE STOP QQ and test this prove what you say is true....

Ithiggi wrote:

Orphen wrote:guys i don't know against what spiritmaster u have fought,probably the most noobs spiritmaster of all world,cause if u have time to go in melee to a spiritmaster and stun the pet,then break the bubble ( the first shot is always absborbed by bubble and if i remember well u can do the bubble on the spirit champion too,so is missed that shot too) and slam him ( if u have slam ) with the spiritmaster doing nothing,or u are just playing with 2 account so the spiritmaster is used by u and u don't move it or u just met a spiritmaster afk...really for u guys a spirit don't have the time to root u or mezz u?...i don't think even a spiritmaster go in melee with the staff lol so probably he try to kite for sure,so he have all the time to root u before u take him...so really...start play this game,what u are saying is really funny...and anyway just if u don't know...not all the classes have slam or mezz...u are talkin like every1 have both...

WOW I can barley understand complete thoughts in your block of text.
ok you are assuming that a sm can cast a bubble on its pet... SMs can't do this here or Live.
This does bring up a bug with the SM pet that should be mentioned the pet bubble self proc seems broken.
I see the proc animation but the mob or player attacking is not stopped.
There is no message of anysort pertaining to a bladeturn.
All you see is the proc animation and the damage caused by the attacker.
Now what this guy probably noticed was a RM's bubble cast on pet or pbt from pet in group with said RM.


PLEASE STOP QQ and test this prove what you say is true....

really are u serious? of all the things i said u have took the only thing wrong ( and i said for first i wasn't sure of that thing lol ) and for the rest u just shut up and don't reply...and if u don't know there aren't only 8 vs 8 in daoc,there are 1 vs 1 too and most of the time is in these situations u can see better if something is bugged about a class...anyway why u haven't answered to these things? i said that in the mean u go in melee to a spiritmaster he can root u,mezz u if u are near and he will kite for sure too,so i dont have the time to slam him ( I WRITE IN CAPS THIS THING SO MAYBE U CAN SEE IT,NOT EVERY1 HAVE SLAM OR MEZZ ) and even if i have the time to slam the pet he will root me or mezz me for sure in the mean and plus ( and just this show that u don't play rvr often ) the spiritmaster pet can random ista stun u for around 3 sec,so if the spirit is not a noob he will throw the pet against me at the begin for try to stun and in the mean kite and try to attack me or directly root me and after that,he will put the pet on passive and take range,tell me why of all the things i said,u took only the 1 where i said for first maybe i was wrong,is ridicolous...look at your posts,the only thing u are doing is take a part of my text and for the rest u don't have answer,so u don't reply to the other things...really what is the mean of your post? i said that i wasn't sure about the spirit champion bubble but apart from that i said other 4 things...and what u have done? u have only answered to that thing....really can u start maybe to give me an answer to what i say,instead of only took some parts of the discussion and then say stop qq in all your posts cause u think is a pro thing to say? maybe so i can understand that u played daoc more than 1 week...cause your attitude seems like a 10 years old baby that play on daoc by 1 week and think to know everything,when the truth is he don't even know what is saying...start to give answers to what i say,so maybe i can take u seriously...and if u have a spiritmaster and u are pwned by all melee probably the problem is that u don't know how to play it,not cause the other classes are OP,u have talked about ranger too when no1 have talked about it and to that thing too u haven't answered lol,next time what class will u put in the discussion for try to say something? i don't even understand why u have talked about the hunter pet on midgard comparing it with the spiritmaster 1 lol...u have some robot writing at your place or u just write the first things u think? and why a person have to go in support section to criticise a "possible bug"? if the guy put some screens and they will discover the intercept rate is bugged they will fix it,if not there isn't nothing to be fixed...if u talk in the manner u do,it seems u are the first 1 qq here,cause u don't want this "possible" bug fixed or cause u die so many times against classes u call "OP" that talk about spiritmaster "bugged" and not about ranger etc make u qq more...