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Phileas
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Postby Phileas » Dec 28, 2010 12:43

Disdain wrote:Gotta love it when the people playing a class under discussion rarely ever bring any valuable information to the topic, they just stick to poor sarcasm and biased information. Doesn't really help your cause, does it?

Like I said there's not many spiritmasters because playing tanks is easier. You like pointing out numbers eh ? Theurgists are supposed to be overpowered imbalanced rupting machines, how come there's only 7 rr7+ ? You'd think that because they're soooooooo overpowered there'd be hundreds of 'em! Cabalists have an imba pet that "insta kills", not many of those either. 11 6l+ enchanters, wow amazing. Same goes for mentalists. The only mages that can be found in bigger numbers are sorcs, rms and eldritches because they're more or less mandatory for group rvr.

Obviously there's few spiritmasters because their pet is simply not overpowered enough :roll:



if my information is so useless, why dont you provide some?


for example: use the search option and find proof that the intercepted damage is 15% (like someone stated) and not 30% (as i said), which is still too low which i also reported (as well as pet running speed)
what did you do to change the problems? i did /callgms because i also dont want to play a bugged class

needless to say i made the SM almost four years ago and was rr6+ by the time the pet started doing things except being used by the rr5 button, so i play like pretty much any caster in groupfights, i prekite, i position myself etc etc... the only new option i got was not dying instantly when a tank hits me... i even enjoyed hunting stealthers... i still dont get why there shouldnt be a caster class that is able to counter assassin classes

btw:
12 mentalists rr6+
42 sorcerers rr6+
21 theurgists rr6+

some numbers for you, too

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arnius
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Postby arnius » Dec 28, 2010 13:17

Saying that an sm pet is a free moc a sm proves that you have no clue what so ever about the class & how to kill it, & thus have no clue about how strong it is.

CC the pet for 7sec's or more & then start hitting away on the sm = victory.

And if a merc or BM charges in he can get close & even pull of a sidestun on the pet most of the time (happend several times already, pet strafing oO). Also the intercept of a sm pet is only once every 3sec's (at least thats what I have made up by doing PvM & PvP) so if you have a fast mainhand you can hit through it & keep the sm in rupt.

What I would concider as a bug is the abillity to intercept a PA (already happend 3 or 4 times now) & not only the initial dmg, but the bleed, dot & desease all go on the pet. (bleed + dot makes it die quickly though)

And about the grass is always greener on the other side, well let me put it this way, i would galdly lower the intercept rate to almost nothing for pet sprint & caba RR5 making SM a more useable group char.
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Postby Zarkor » Dec 28, 2010 13:36

arnius wrote:CC the pet for 7sec's or more & then start hitting away on the sm = victory.

Nope, you won't be able to kill it in the slam duration as a single tank. Especially when he quickcasts lifetap u're just hitting him for no real reason since when the stun fades u're dead anyway and he'll have almost full health by that time.

arnius wrote:And if a merc or BM charges in he can get close & even pull of a sidestun on the pet most of the time (happend several times already, pet strafing oO). Also the intercept of a sm pet is only once every 3sec's (at least thats what I have made up by doing PvM & PvP) so if you have a fast mainhand you can hit through it & keep the sm in rupt.

Nope, I swing pretty fast with my BM but he just casts through... He may be rupted perhaps 1 out of 3 casts. With lifetap, that's more than enough to keep him above 60% health at all times.

Oh and by the way, I've played a lvl 33 SM once, I tried to suicide on mobs, I had a yellow and red mob hitting me while I was sitting. I was at 12% health at the time and I sat down, thinking it won't last long anyway, remarkably though, they actually KILLED THE PET before I died because of the interrupt. (The pet was at 80% health) .... ... .. .

arnius wrote:And about the grass is always greener on the other side, well let me put it this way, i would galdly lower the intercept rate to almost nothing for pet sprint & caba RR5 making SM a more useable group char.

Anyone would gladly take caba RR5 compared to any other simply because it's even more ridiculously OPed than the buggy SM pet.
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Postby Nymeros » Dec 28, 2010 13:41

arnius wrote:CC the pet for 7sec's or more & then start hitting away on the sm = victory.

Err, have you somehow misplaced your Quickcast button?

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Umilard
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Postby Umilard » Dec 28, 2010 14:54

I think it's the combination of bugged ruptcode and intercept that makes it TOO good? When/if the ruptcode gets fixed it should be easier to keep the SM from casting.

But anyways, lifetapping (dark?) SMs with Moc will always be very strong in 1on1 and I don't see the point in whining about it. Especially since it's such a specialized character, I think most SMs spec supp for RvR (pbaoe)?

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Postby Zarkor » Dec 28, 2010 15:33

Umilard wrote:I think it's the combination of bugged ruptcode and intercept that makes it TOO good? When/if the ruptcode gets fixed it should be easier to keep the SM from casting.

But anyways, lifetapping (dark?) SMs with Moc will always be very strong in 1on1 and I don't see the point in whining about it. Especially since it's such a specialized character, I think most SMs spec supp for RvR (pbaoe)?

The thing is they don't even need moc because of the pet...
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Postby Umilard » Dec 28, 2010 15:40

Zarkor wrote:The thing is they don't even need moc because of the pet...


And that's partly becouse of the bugged interuptcode, yeah? If it was working correcly it would be harder for them to nuke.. They will still be able to get casts off but not as often as it is now.

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