Garad wrote:
If Uthgard similar to live, 50 CD is a waste of points, since the 50 CD styles damage depends on pierce/blunt/slash spec rather than on CD spec. Hence, 44 CD should be max., while 40 path should be minimum spec for the yellow dex/qui to hot the soft cap of 250 qui for shars/celts.

IMHO I would also prefer pierce rather than slash. Good assassins will use str-base, str/con and disease debuff against you and nullify your main weapon stat. (Ok, since WS has currently no influence on evade this is in fact not hurting so much as it shoud do).

I thought shadowblades and hunters are pierce-resistent ?
Hmm, everone i met told me: Best Weapons against stealthers are blades...
But ok, i think you know a little more about rangers than i do I have no problem with that...i like to learn more to get a better player in this game

I like my spec like it is (39 blades, 50 path , 22 CD). I do a lot of damage to other stealthers...ok i dont do THAT much dmg on minstrels like pierce-specced-rangers...but minstrels arent that hard to kill The problem with minstrels is that they use SOS in 1v1 when they find out that they are going to loose

Yol wrote:I thought shadowblades and hunters are pierce-resistent ?
Hmm, everone i met told me: Best Weapons against stealthers are blades...

In fact they are But the debuffs will hit for full for blade spec and only half for pierce. In the end, by the rule of thumb, I would estimate, that both weapon types deal same amount of damage. but for pierce, you will have a much higher weapon skill. This would be an advantages, IF defense would be reduced by weapon skill, what is currently not true on uthgard, sadly.

For my NS, i was also blade specced. But as NS you can "Remedy", which protects you from being debuffed to gimpness

honestly the best rangers on uthgard are specced full bow. personally i think the damn hardest rangers are either specced full bow with high MOS or full melee with purge2/ip2. either setup is damned effective if you play it right. bow ranger must open with a nice crit and kite/rapidfire. melee ranger simple, try to get off your side stun with either your opening attack or try to do a quick strafe in combat.

this is coming from someone who has fought hundreds of rangers good and bad. i actually enjoy fighting them 1v1 because i am specced specifically to try and fight archers. my ranger defense spec is tough 4 aug con 3 purge 2 and a full melee sb spec with 39+16 axe 50+16 left axe. it penetrates their PD/IP much better than a CS spec sb (i find it nearly impossible to PA an archer) and i have enough defense RAs to survive their side stun and nice DPS.

Yol wrote:

-l- Edgtho -l- wrote:

Yol wrote:With lev 50 as a rr4 Ranger:

-50 Pathfinding
-39 Blades
-22 Celtic dual
-36 stealth
- no points in bow...ok you get 12 points from autotrain then

Best spec for Melee, good chance to kill all other stealthers.
You should get mos4 as soon as possible then...so no assasines can vanish away

ololololololololo never heared such a bullsh!t ^^

my lvl 50 ranger got :
50cd
27blades
31stealth
39path
12bow(at)

i am rr8 now, at rr4-7 i got 40 cd and 39 blades for the dehaste bladecombo

With 27 in blades you reach at rr8 only (27+7+11 = 45) 45 in Weaponspec. Wyred-Spec says: 51 in Weaponspec is a MUST.

So far for the bullsh!t as you told me
And only 39 path on a classic-server with NO buffbots...nah...i cant the right words for this...or i would get a ban here

yes i only reach 45 weapon, but who cares? i do 190-250 dmg and have nearby no misses , for what the hell should i skill to 51 weapon?^^

-l- Edgtho -l- wrote:yes i only reach 45 weapon, but who cares? i do 190-250 dmg and have nearby no misses , for what the hell should i skill to 51 weapon?^^

BTW I'm realy intrested in how much style damage you do with Supernova compared with Tempest.

According to http://www.classesofcamelot.com/other/s ... bernia.htm

Supernova has even a lower growth rate than Tempest?

Supernova growth is 1.1x or 1.2x don't know exactly by heart, that website is wrong.

supernova have variance from 230-270 on neutral armor (infi)

edit - w/o S/C debuff

Supernova 1.28 gr and Tempest 0.98 gr

i would go for
42 path, red af
35 stealth if you are <rr5
39 cd
36 weapon
12 bow

optional drop weapon and put the points to cd

Cadam wrote:i would go for
42 path, red af
35 stealth if you are <rr5
39 cd
36 weapon
12 bow

optional drop weapon and put the points to cd

With 39 in Blades you get a dehaste-Follow up style. Very usefull against other Melee-Classes i think.

But your spec seems ok too. But i like 50 path more because of the much better Selfbuffs then. My Shar-Rnager has 248 Quickness with this red Dex/Qui Selfbuff.... i like this and maybe i evade a little better with the better dex/qui selfbuff.
And the better strenght-selfbuff gives you 9 strength-point more. And do not forget the better dmg-add-buff.

I dont know if all this buffs doesent help more than your higher skill in cd. Maybe someone else can answer this question?

Haste debuff styles are useless on uthgard, they debuff a measly amount that you won't even notice...

Disdain wrote:Haste debuff styles are useless on uthgard, they debuff a measly amount that you won't even notice...

nearby, its 7% only but its on all dehaste styls only 7% so you will only conter the archilles heel dehaste

and yol, this 9 str and last d/q buff arent the world, just try 42 path or 40 path and u will see there is nearby no diffrence
the blue dmg add suxx because it makes no dmg (5-9) and the red is to expensive for his ´´littlebit more´´ than the lvl36 one.

mfg -l- Edgtho -l-

Hi, I am gonna roll a ranger too, are there no complaints on the hybrid Spec posted by Garad?

39 pierce, 18 CD, 35 bow, 35 stealth, 40 path
MoS4

Can I have a full coward (bow) spec please? I've seen non uthgard videos of rangers headshoting (1 hit kill) casters, that would be pretty nice, even thought I know it is not that unbalanced in Uthgard, making that good amount of damage would be "Legen...wait for it... dary".

i heard bow spec wasn't rly ONE SHOOT PWN but some nice dmg out put are seen :p

I found an interesting sniper spec, opinions please!

46 PF
45 Bow
30 Stealth
25 Pierce
12 CD

Looks nice for snipering but failing at any casual melee fight. Anyway I think I am going hybrid, it wont success too much but will stand a chance at any circumstance.