oh old RAs, this should be good

Since i play on Uthgrad all big Changes at the RvR-System where bad.
NF is much better, more intresting then OF. Same will happen with Old RA´s.

You cant turn back time if you just build old styles.... The great golden time of DAOC is far away...and with the new imbalance the staff will loose much players again on uthgard.

Hmm. NF<OF RvR all the way. The primetime RvR in Emain is as big as it never was in Agramon (not even speaking of NF Emain as RvR zone). Dunno where you have your sources, for sure not from playing in actualy endgame RvR. Anyways, i do agree that theres some major flaws in old RAs that need to be adressed in order for them to be viable. Lets see if the GMs agree on this for once, or if they do the same mistake as with new RAs, by not custimising them at all.

Asloan wrote:Hmm. NF<OF RvR all the way. The primetime RvR in Emain is as big as it never was in Agramon (not even speaking of NF Emain as RvR zone). Dunno where you have your sources, for sure not from playing in actualy endgame RvR. Anyways, i do agree that theres some major flaws in old RAs that need to be adressed in order for them to be viable. Lets see if the GMs agree on this for once, or if they do the same mistake as with new RAs, by not custimising them at all.

I dunno, i played agra through emain and i prefer how it was in agra/new frontiers. And well, ra's i'll stay on, better to fix then to implement new bugs.

iirc the most action in endgame rvr could be found during the camps period, the problem was that Agramon became too crowded. Than again I think most people prefer Crowded to half empty

Today there were like 4fgh,lots of fga and 3 fgm. can´t recall that beeing normal in agra ever, and it seems to become standard for OF Emain. I will repeat what i said, i can not recall any scenario where there was more action in Endgame RvR then there currently is. And i play Uthgard for a long long time now, and i am active in Endgame RvR for nearly this whole time aswell.

bawww wrote:iirc the most action in endgame rvr could be found during the camps period, the problem was that Agramon became too crowded. Than again I think most people prefer Crowded to half empty

In my opinion Agramon might have gotten a bit crowded but I didn't see that as the worst issue. I mainly got tired of finding the inc at times when action was rather low, there were too many different used routes that the odds of 2 grps colliding were not large enough to know whether or not you were actually wasting time searching for the possible inc, which eventually made u waste your time anyhow.

Nobody would mind getting zerged or added if it didn't take forever to actually get to rvr. Pointless waiting + long resurrection sickness + huge zone + few people in rvr = makes every inc precious and dying frustrating.

Please remember that there will be some changes to the rvr system too when they revamp the rvr

just to remind everyone that there might be hope for the future

Oh yes downgrading the patch limit further and implementing an even more imbalanced realmability system will surely fix it.

i doubt that you believe your own word nixian...

agra maybe was crowded...but that had an other background...NF had only 4 activated zones...
and emain now is even more crowded than agra ever was...

about the point of not finding inc at low peak...you dont do here too..

any other pro-OF arguements needed to be swiped off the desk?

Musikus wrote:i doubt that you believe your own word nixian...

agra maybe was crowded...but that had an other background...NF had only 4 activated zones...
and emain now is even more crowded than agra ever was...

about the point of not finding inc at low peak...you dont do here too..

any other pro-OF arguements needed to be swiped off the desk?

We had low rvr population with NF and OF. The problem aren´t the maps, are the players. Do you think if tomorrow we back to NF we will have 300 players doing rvr? I think no.

Back to topic. Old ras sux a lot and will only bring more imbalances in rvr.

Maps are very much the problem. Action > lots of pointless waiting/running.

vangonaj wrote:
We had low rvr population with NF and OF. The problem aren´t the maps, are the players. Do you think if tomorrow we back to NF we will have 300 players doing rvr? I think no.

Correct, the problem are the players not the RvR System.
On Uthgard most RvR players like to think that they are part of a leet 8vs8 community. Actually the most fights are not on the battlefield, they are in the broad channel. Everyone just flames everyone what a ****** damn adder he is etc.
So what they do all day long is 8vs8 and if there is a other random grp adding they just stop fighting and watch the random pug wiping.
What the new players do on Uthgard is getting started and after rr4 in Thid they wait and hope for a free spot in emain. If they form a random pug they will wipe all day long cause they dont have any chance against the guild grps.
One would say form a 12 men. But they dont do it for a simple reason. They will get flamed and not invited again in other grps. Hence all the rr4 players quit or create a Stealther and either form stealther grp or say good bye Uthgard.
If you want more action in RvR just stop flaming the randoms and be a realm rather than a 1 grp show.

Mean nasty men trying to get competition going. It makes me sick.