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Ajunoo
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 by Ajunoo » Aug 03, 2010 10:34
How about a little group bonus to RPs gained if you take low RRs with you?
would it be viable to make a lvl 50 "bg" until you reach, say, rr5? Problem is this would probably just make the OF zones more empty... But maybe they are just too big.
Also I think you should give Bonuses to underpopulated realms (especially exp, thats a big incentive for newer players to join said underpopulated realms).
It would be nice as well if you integrated class listings in your herald so people can see what is needed (for example there seem to be so many healers in all the 3 realms, its really getting tough to find a grp sometimes)
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Zarkor
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by Zarkor » Aug 03, 2010 13:26
Llithium wrote:Questions like:
Is there any motivation from your side to improve RvR?
Nayru wrote:After taking a closer look and analyzing the grievances and problems of our current RvR system, as well as reading the numerous forum topics describing these problems, we quickly noticed that an enduring improvement may only be achieved by addressing and working on the root of the problem which would obviously lead to a vast revamp of the whole system.
Llithium wrote:Can you imagine to realize any of these suggestions?
Nayru wrote:...we are currently working on an additional concept to ensure a more fast and pacing RvR-experience within the frontiers...
This staff information is now over 2 months old. The last update was on the 11th of July, informing us that they were still working on those announced changes.
I seriously fail to understand what more to expect from the staff by making topics such as these. Staff KNOWS about the problem and much more than that, they ARE working on it! I know that if I were a staff member I'd fail to understand the need for more of the same feedback when the questions that are being asked here have been properly answered in the past.
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Nymeros
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by Nymeros » Aug 03, 2010 13:56
Can you please elaborate in a bit more detail WHAT exactly the staff is doing? You know, for the rest of us that can't read minds?
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Zarkor
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by Zarkor » Aug 03, 2010 14:01
Nymeros wrote:Can you please elaborate in a bit more detail WHAT exactly the staff is doing? You know, for the rest of us that can't read minds?
No need to read minds, just the news will do.
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Nymeros
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by Nymeros » Aug 03, 2010 14:11
Okay then, in that case elaborate this "news" for us please, because we all seem to be ignorant and are unable to find any specific details, plans or for that matter anything except big words and fancy promises in the news. What is the staff doing EXCATLY?
And so glad to see you buffed up on your reading skills since that little BG discussion a few days ago, keep up the good work.
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Zarkor
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by Zarkor » Aug 03, 2010 14:18
I know as much/little as you do and as far as I know there are no specific plans or details. I'm just pointing out that there is a relevant answer to the questions around, which makes the lack of a real staff repsonse more comprehendable.
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Nymeros
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by Nymeros » Aug 03, 2010 14:49
The point is that there ISN'T a relevant answer. There is *an* answer, but it's hardly relevant as it basically boils down to "We'll make it better... somehow", without revealing either what "somehow" or "better" might entail.
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Zarkor
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by Zarkor » Aug 03, 2010 15:10
Nymeros wrote:The point is that there ISN'T a relevant answer. There is *an* answer, but it's hardly relevant as it basically boils down to "We'll make it better... somehow", without revealing either what "somehow" or "better" might entail.
True, but if you think about it, do you really expect a more detailed answer from them because we pose a more detailed question?
The best we'd probably see are lines such as: "It's done when it's done" or "We're working on it". I just think it's as relevant as it gets, if you catch my drift.
I'd be happily proven wrong anytime though, but I really doubt that. 
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Trishin
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by Trishin » Aug 03, 2010 15:22
More details will come when they are ready to be given.
Get back on topic please.
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Zarkor
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by Zarkor » Aug 03, 2010 15:35
Trishin wrote:More details will come when they are ready to be given.
Get back on topic please.
Voila, ty.
I don't think there's much left to discuss tho...
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Salem
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by Salem » Aug 03, 2010 17:34
I agree with Bloodwyne 
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DarkRef
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by DarkRef » Aug 03, 2010 22:36
Ramboz wrote:DarkRef wrote:STOP TALKING ABOUT 8v8
1. There are no elitist SGs on this server.
2. We are not uber hardcore pro.
3. I fail to see how decreased port timers is only beneficial to us.
It's not relevant.
Ok thanks bye.
your 3. statement, implies that the 1. + 2. statements are actually real. ][/URL] IT IS a matter of 8vs8 and as long KT and Rare members come out to shout it isn't ...the more it is...
As Lithium rightly put, my statements are still correct.
It's true that 90% of the time we run with the setup (it took us quite a while to start running with the game setup) but we hardly ever run with the same players. We don't even chose who comes, we put a msg in our channel like this :
group 7.00pm [xxx, xxx, xxx, xxx, xxx, xxx, xxx, xxx]
and if people want to play they will put their name in.
We don't even use TS. We know it's helpful, but we don't use it. Most uberhardcore pro players will use every opportunity to make themselves better, we don't.
What I have said applies to any other guild like KT that you think is an elitist SG, it's not true.
End of discussion.
Related:
The thing we dont know is why so many people don't go to RvR in emain.
How about creating a poll on the forums with reasons?
(and have the poll come up in changelog so those people actually know the poll exists)
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Zarkor
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by Zarkor » Aug 04, 2010 02:24
DarkRef wrote:The thing we dont know is why so many people don't go to RvR in emain.
This is my theory: Zarkor wrote:Ajunoo wrote:And if BGs offer so much more fun than endgame RvR right now, and people rather reroll than hit the endgame RvR, whats to stop them from rerolling when they face the decision at lvl40? (assuming the BGs end there).
Nothing stops them, just like nothing is stopping them now to just reroll and do those whole nasty 30 levels again to get to Braemar. The striking fact is though, that despite that 30 level grind, which really does take quite a while, people STILL refuse to keep playing their level 50 4Lx character because of the current issues in end RvR. They are used to easy and instant RvR access where there's almost no such thing as unwanted players or classes, unwanted specs or armor/weaponry. The whole setting of BGs is casual, whereas end-RvR currently is all but casual. That's what I call a "jump in cold water", and understandably beats the level 30 grind in terms of demotivation, frustration and the pure lack of enjoyment to those not immediately determined enough to dig their way into the end RvR scenery and social ranks.
The current setting effectively splits up the more end game determined players from the more casual players, leading to a situation where end-RvR becomes very hostile towards your regular casual player. Especially if they come one by one like it is now with Thidranki I can imagine it often leads to either quitting or rerolling to BGs.
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Rocus
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by Rocus » Aug 04, 2010 11:37
Well don't speak only about Killer Tomatoes or Rare...there are many groups like Morrigans Breath, The Chosen (atm don't active), Engel des Nordens and Anguish (don't active too) that have near same situation...because many people on alb reroll BG cause lvl 50 situation.
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DarkRef
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by DarkRef » Aug 04, 2010 13:40
Zarkor wrote:DarkRef wrote:The thing we dont know is why so many people don't go to RvR in emain.
This is my theory: Zarkor wrote:Ajunoo wrote:And if BGs offer so much more fun than endgame RvR right now, and people rather reroll than hit the endgame RvR, whats to stop them from rerolling when they face the decision at lvl40? (assuming the BGs end there).
Nothing stops them, just like nothing is stopping them now to just reroll and do those whole nasty 30 levels again to get to Braemar. The striking fact is though, that despite that 30 level grind, which really does take quite a while, people STILL refuse to keep playing their level 50 4Lx character because of the current issues in end RvR. They are used to easy and instant RvR access where there's almost no such thing as unwanted players or classes, unwanted specs or armor/weaponry. The whole setting of BGs is casual, whereas end-RvR currently is all but casual. That's what I call a "jump in cold water", and understandably beats the level 30 grind in terms of demotivation, frustration and the pure lack of enjoyment to those not immediately determined enough to dig their way into the end RvR scenery and social ranks.
The current setting effectively splits up the more end game determined players from the more casual players, leading to a situation where end-RvR becomes very hostile towards your regular casual player. Especially if they come one by one like it is now with Thidranki I can imagine it often leads to either quitting or rerolling to BGs.
how about a lvl 50 BG again?XD
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