good ideas...i'm agree with both point!

I used to play on teh freeshard instant50 before,

This is where everyone will stop paying attention to you.

Anyways, what is all this jibber jabber?

Honestly, I don't see why we're discussing this, dropping port times just makes sense. Don't turn it down because you don't think it'll help, if it's not doing any damage, and a lot of people want it, why are you trying to argue anything against it?

Also, OF is the problem. It brought in new members, that's dandy, but RvR sucks way worse than in Agramon.

big +1 Krinton.

Just do as Bloodwyne said.

Krinton3 wrote:

I used to play on teh freeshard instant50 before,

This is where everyone will stop paying attention to you.

Anyways, what is all this jibber jabber?

Honestly, I don't see why we're discussing this, dropping port times just makes sense. Don't turn it down because you don't think it'll help, if it's not doing any damage, and a lot of people want it, why are you trying to argue anything against it?

Also, OF is the problem. It brought in new members, that's dandy, but RvR sucks way worse than in Agramon.

Obvious you got no clue what you talking about. First of all why would it matter that i played on instant50 before?

And second, Agramon only works if more groups roaming. Otherwise Agramon is to big rvr zone. I love the design of Agramon, but as i said you need more groups to make it work. Cause its a big big roaming area.
And with the current state uthgarde pvp is, there is no chance it would work.

Agramon is too big but OF is the right size?

You high, boy?

I agree totally ! This would make emain more active and better for all of us !

Zarkor wrote:

DarkRef wrote:Why do so many people chose to play in BGs and not Emain?

A couple reasons:

1. Instant port timers means no waiting (waiting is always boring).
2. The layout of the maps means theres more chance for other types of RvR, such as 1v1, 2v1, 4v4, 14v23

(and the myth told by many forum posters that us super hardcore players that pee in bottles on our desk drive those casuals away)

Refref you can't be serious.

Then why didnt we have this problem back in the old (new) emain with the tele-keeps (with crau and crim as the main keeps)?

now those are some great ideas griselda said i'm ok with them

i also think that both suggestions would be nice for uthgard and makes rvr in other zones more possible than now.

i think its an good idea.

mfg lupo

DarkRef wrote:

Zarkor wrote:

DarkRef wrote:Why do so many people chose to play in BGs and not Emain?

A couple reasons:

1. Instant port timers means no waiting (waiting is always boring).
2. The layout of the maps means theres more chance for other types of RvR, such as 1v1, 2v1, 4v4, 14v23

(and the myth told by many forum posters that us super hardcore players that pee in bottles on our desk drive those casuals away)

Refref you can't be serious.

Then why didnt we have this problem back in the old (new) emain with the tele-keeps (with crau and crim as the main keeps)?

here ref ,.. have fun reading
http://uthgard-server.net/modules.php?n ... ght=zarkor

as you can see he really thought about the problemS ,.. AND wrote it with the solutions down ,..+ discussed it with others...
this caused the RvR revamp the Gms are currently working on ,.

and now you come with ,.. 2-3 sentences and say : X is the reason and Y will solve it ,..
sry but it looks a bit nasty

Hopper1984 wrote:and makes rvr in other zones more possible

and thats the Point..

not emain.

Snailcake wrote:I agree totally ! This would make emain more active and better for all of us !

This is the problem with RvR: RvR =/= Emain

Emeryc wrote:

Snailcake wrote:I agree totally ! This would make emain more active and better for all of us !

This is the problem with RvR: RvR =/= Emain

As long as even Emain is dead sometimes during Primetime your point is moot....

In any case I like the idea of keeping the server classic, but did it come to anyones mind yet, that Mythic was not perfect?

My point of view is, that classic was the best sequence of DAoC. I dislike anything that came after classic, even the SI classes are not balanced with the classic ones.
But anyway, I don't think it is too custom trying to get balance and improvement for the Uthgard shard.
We have different circumstances here, different activity, different focuses especially in case of leveling twinks and fighting in BGs.
If there are problems I'd like the mentality to solve them, improve the situation and not do the same mistakes that Mythic did on live.
As the main issue is the fun here, it shall be everyones aim to support this idea.

P.s.: Nevermind if it is a player problem, you can't change all player minds or create a rule system that forces everyone to integrate new players or less skilled players etc.. But we can try to improve the settings, so don't discuss the impossible things and keep focus on possible ones.

(Anyways I don't like how the RvR mentality grew up and made the people form SGs and high RR groups as an irrevocable base for doing RvR. But even faster RvR can improve the situation by the motivation of a retry in Emain without waiting 5-15 minutes each wipe.)