Infil 1.69 + Old RAs - Mercfiltrator or Crit Blade?

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Postby Mee » Jul 28, 2010 15:38

Tiziano86 wrote:
Cyan wrote:I think the best spec is at 7l :

50 dw
39 cs
33 + 17 stealth
31 + 17 evenom
34 + 17 slash

U can deal good dmg with PA (about 450-600 dmg, it depends by the target, creeping death and the other following style in the pa combo).

U can double pa with vanish (in addition to the first pa u deal 1300+ dmg in 6 hits).

U have 50 anytime by dw (dual shadows, the strongest style of albion), and high rate to hit with both weapons.

U deal good damage with evade style by cs combo (harmstring, leaper, high grow rate, with Dodger 3 and d/q buffs u cap your evade chance, the same is for dw and dualist's reflexes).

Sure, without purge stun 7 secs on evade is hard, but i don't like easy game at all, slash ftw (u can go the same way even with thrust).

PS: Vanish is hard to use due to dots, bleeding and strafing (it's not to easy to make pa with vanish, u need some skill).

Don't take see hidden, i know is a good ability to make free rps vs archers (and yes because u will make free rps with archers, no matter what ppl says :D), but there are most powerful ability u take to kill sb, ns and maybe other classes (isn't good for your health to inc a shielded tank without viper and purge :D).

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I completely agree with you. but this is spec is without autotrain. if you autotrain till lvl 32 at 7l you can spec:

39 CS
33 +17 Stealth
33 +17 Envenom
33 +17 Trust/Slah
50 DW

But what about for 4l? Better to use DualWield or Trust?

The options are this:

39 CS
36 Stealth
36 Envenom
26 Trust
50 DW


or

39 CS
36 Stealth
36 Envenom
50 Trust
26 DW

What do you think is the best one at low realm rank? and why?


I would go with your second spec. If you lower your weapon spec, you will lower your base damage. Lower your dw and you will only lower your offhand swing rate.

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Postby Helawow » Jul 28, 2010 16:05

For rr4 (at till 40):

50 dw
34 cs
36 stealth
36 env
35 weapon

or

50 Thrust
34-39 cs
36 stealth/env
29-35 dw

or

50 dw
50 thrust
36 Stealth
34 env

are some viable options.
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Postby Tiziano86 » Jul 28, 2010 16:22

the last style of DW have prerequisite?

the CS stun is at lvl 34 or 39?

and.. is so important to get trust 50 for the evade stun? anyway with the respec at high rr i no have more trust 50, so no evadestun.

if the cs stun is 34 and no need trust 50 a nice spec at rr4 with autotrain till 32 would be:

34 CS
36 Stealth
36 Envenom
50 DW
32 Trust

32+14= 46 trust, it isn't enough for the dmg? what do you think?

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Postby Helawow » Jul 28, 2010 16:39

Would rather drop envenom instead of weapon :wink:
PA followup is 34cs, but it can't replace dragonfang. Well, you don't need dragonfang, but it's nice to have. And i gets even stronger with old RAs as there will be many cases where your enemies dont have purge up.

50 dw style is a frontal style with no prerequisite.
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Postby Tiziano86 » Jul 28, 2010 16:44

pa follow up is 34 cs yes, but it is the one that stun for 7 sec? if i stun with it, i can't use dragonfang for 1 minute right?

50dw requisite so is to be in front of the target :P

but if is so nice to have dragonfang, why at high rr is better to get 50dw and drop trust? and drop the damge too

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Postby Caldrian » Jul 28, 2010 16:57

Helawow wrote:For rr4 (at till 40):

50 dw
34 cs
36 stealth
36 env
35 weapon

or

50 Thrust
34-39 cs
36 stealth/env
29-35 dw

or

50 dw
50 thrust
36 Stealth
34 env

are some viable options.


your first and third spec dont add up, even with at to 48 (77 bonus points) you only get:

50 34 36 36 33
50 50 36 33

as for your second spec, I wouldnt rely on styles from a line that you didnt spec more than 34 in, the exeption being pa, cd, bsII.

my inf will be 50 dw 34 cs 36 weap 36 stealth 33 env (at to 48, rr4)

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Postby Helawow » Jul 28, 2010 17:04

Yep if you land your pa followup the targets gets 1min immunity to further stun effects. But there are soo many situations/fights where you won't even land pa - and in that case you've got another possibility for a stun.

But everything depends on your preferences and of course playstyle. Your damage output will be higher with 50dw/lower thrust and its fully reliable, dragonfang is not.

But hey, I like the style and will most likely never drop it. :wink:
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Postby Helawow » Jul 28, 2010 17:06

Caldrian wrote:
Helawow wrote:.


your first and third spec dont add up, even with at to 48 (77 bonus points) you only get:



Maybe my charplanner doesnt work properly but both speccs should work with AT till 40 :P
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Postby Tiziano86 » Jul 28, 2010 17:09

so i do more dmg with 50 DW and low trust. but the dmg don't depend on the trust skill?

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Postby Helawow » Jul 28, 2010 17:12

I meant with 50dw and a composite of 50/51 in thrust (e.g 36+14) :wink:
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Postby Tiziano86 » Jul 28, 2010 17:14

sry...what is a composite? :P

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Postby Helawow » Jul 28, 2010 17:19

Composite skill level means your basic skill level (trained) + bonuses (+skills in the template +rr)
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Postby Tiziano86 » Jul 28, 2010 17:26

ahhh kk

but how dmg difference between 50+17 trust or 33+17trust?

and how much hit chance with secon weapon i have with 33+17dw or 50+17dw?

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Postby Helawow » Jul 28, 2010 17:31

The dmg difference will be nearly unrecognizable.

And as far as I know the dw chance formula is: 25% basis chance+0,68*dw skill = chance to hit with both weapons.

For example:
With 33+17 your chance will be: 25%+0,68*50 = 59%
With 50+17 your chance will be: 25%+0,68*67 = 70,56%
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