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Finalement
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Postby Finalement » Jul 27, 2010 16:50

Heya community!

Since Friars are not liked in grp I decided to create a 100% solo-Friar. But I really don't know how to spec it.

Since I'm solo and only need Weapon+Buffs I thought about this spec:

50 Staff (After Parry Style)
38 Buff (38 COmbat speed, Yellow Resis, decent buffs)
8 Heal (Poison+Disease-cure)
18 Parry (Enough for After-Parry-style with enough MoParry)

Maybe a 44 Staff version would fit better due to the minimum Heal-ability of my first suggestion:

44 Staff (8 sec stun)
42 Buff (Highest dex/qui)
24 Heal (first HoT)
8 Parry (No after-parry style, no parry)


So what do you think?

LG Fin

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Postby Lintu » Jul 27, 2010 17:39

For a solo friar you are too shy with parry and spending too much in heal and staff imo.

You should go 45(?) Buff to get all red selfbuffs and staff only needs 50 with the +itembonus. Some heal for cure disease and cure dot is nice, but that should be all the way with healing. Friar HOT is too nerfed on Uth, not worth speccing it. Then you got quite some specpoints left for parry which can be useful in 1on1 fights.
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Postby Blitze » Jul 27, 2010 17:39

as a friar yes you will be pretty much forced to solo.

i originally started with this specc

39staff
49enhance
15rejuv
xxparry

this specc i thought would increase groupability with red resists and alright rejuv... sadly that doesnt matter.

so i respecced to:

44staff
47enhance
7rejuv
12parry

Get as much Staff as possible for extra DMG/WS .. but 50 staff is wasteful and the lvl50 style is useless.. in fact the 44staff stun style is only really a pve styl
because soloing u especially need the best buffs (dex/qui etc) they are vital for every friar (45 rejuv is fine... if u dont want the last haste)
you only need 7rejuv for cure pois/desease. (friars rejuv line is one of the worst specc lines on the game... 7 is enough).
rest in parry!

enjoy :)

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Postby Finalement » Jul 27, 2010 20:18

Well no 50 Staff then.

44 Staff for the stun would be nice thought. I can strafe a bit and it should be no prob to get the sidestyle through.
So I guess I will take the 44 Staff 45 Buff spec. No need for red resists since the Body-buff is Cleric^^

This spec allows me to run in small-grps also. And with a Sorc in duo: Mezz --> Sidestyle-chain

Any other suggetions for grp-spec?

Ty so far, LG Fin

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Postby Blitze » Jul 27, 2010 20:57

for you i would choose between

39staff
45enhance
18rejuv
21parry

then you will be able to heal good enough (with +pie/rejuv in your template) I left alot of pie/rejuv outta my template.

or

44staff (or 39 if u want more parry)
45enhance
7rejuv
18parry


its not the strafing to get the sidestyle chain started thats is problem (i despise lag strafing and all that junk) it is that it is 3rd along the chain and hitting 3 times in a row is very hard on uthgard atm (against a sheild user its impossible).

Good luck with your Friar!

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Postby zenobya » Jul 28, 2010 13:11

actualy geting 7 rej is good for dises psen yet geting mre rpsfom rezzing si good wih 15 rej as well.as mentioned above for soloing ho is useles uthgard..so much power to cast cant be castabe while moving at combat etc. and the tic on health is lov as well.

since mst people say go for 39 staf with +11 at level 50 you will cap 50 skilline to cap damge yet you can lvoer to 35 36 on staff with rrs at level 50 most goes to 50 rvr around 4l so 36+14...

for ench line as solo you are not going to meet many spell casters for solo enemy so going t red resists is useles but up t yu that geting red haste at 46 spec.
for ench line as solo friar geting %15 abs at 44 ench is needed but not so imprtant also 45 needed for last self dex/qui buf.

fr parry part you cant have a chance greater then %50 parry and as a 2 hander user you got some bonus for it with high dex and with m.o.parry 3-4 you cna cap your parry to %50 parry with 28+item bonus for parry on friar yet it is not so useful couse you will see many dual-wielders so half chance to counter for them antoher reasn to go 44 ench to get red abs buff.

i used
44 staf
15 rej
46 ench
7-8 parry combo with a speedy staff to land side stun and i tell you it is not worth to relly on sdie stun strafe combo(you cna only get once in 15 solo fights t get side stun)and even you get it your weapon damge dulls with fast staff.

i tested
34 staf
33 parry
45 ench
7 rej line to test parry with m.o.parry 4
i used to parry alot yet damge was crap againts 44 staff one on same staffs

also i tested
29 staff
34 rej
48 ench
rest pary spec
was realy funy if you spec on healing ras(nt suggesting for solo play)

when old ras came planing to test 50 staf one

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Postby Elayia » Jul 28, 2010 16:27

Well If I were to try it, I wouldn't go for the last DQ buff, sure is a loss but all the points could be more usefull in other maybe, like parry and staff

I would try something like that

38 buff spec (for the haste buff and resists)
44 staff
7 or so heal spec
Rest in parry give around 40 parry at least

of course I have no idea what this would be like since I never tried, but I think it would be worth trying

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Postby Henzi » Jul 28, 2010 21:23

Is chance to parry calculated before or after chance to evade? If its before, would it not be better to have lower parry so you can evade, as the off-evade chain is the friars best growthrate chain?

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Postby Elayia » Jul 29, 2010 12:28

Henzi wrote:Is chance to parry calculated before or after chance to evade? If its before, would it not be better to have lower parry so you can evade, as the off-evade chain is the friars best growthrate chain?


Hum I have no idea how it works... :p but anyway, the more you parry the better, I don't see why it would reduce your evade chance, but maybe...
This game is so complicated... buh

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Postby nixian » Jul 29, 2010 12:38

evade > parry > block > miss

I believe it is

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Postby Finalement » Jul 29, 2010 14:00

nixian wrote:evade > parry > block > miss

I believe it is


I think so too, but not sure.

So the Counter-evade-chain has good Growth-Rates, but what's with the After-evade-stun? 3-sec-stun. Enough for a sidestyle with haste+slow staff.

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Postby Dohkuz » Jul 29, 2010 17:44

I used to run with this spec

39 Staff
47 Enhancement
18 Rejuvenation
16 Parry

Staff 39 because 2nd chain style in evade

Enhancement 47 Haste 32% very good when you are in trouble (even better with 5.5 staff equipped to increase dmg :wink: )

18 Rejuvenation Spec heal green (more or less 170hp)

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Postby Henzi » Jul 29, 2010 22:59

Elayia wrote:
Henzi wrote:Is chance to parry calculated before or after chance to evade? If its before, would it not be better to have lower parry so you can evade, as the off-evade chain is the friars best growthrate chain?


Hum I have no idea how it works... :p but anyway, the more you parry the better, I don't see why it would reduce your evade chance, but maybe...
This game is so complicated... buh


You misunderstand me. I don't mean that having parry REDUCES chance to evade, what I mean is that if parry is calculated before evade, having more parry will realistically mean you evade less, as there is more chance of parrying an attack, and thus not evading it instead. But it seems the case according to people in this thread that evade is calculated first, so its a moot point.

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Postby arnius » Jul 30, 2010 08:30

And will make friars strong with OF RA that grants dodger
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Postby Elayia » Jul 30, 2010 12:37

Henzi wrote:
Elayia wrote:
Henzi wrote:Is chance to parry calculated before or after chance to evade? If its before, would it not be better to have lower parry so you can evade, as the off-evade chain is the friars best growthrate chain?


Hum I have no idea how it works... :p but anyway, the more you parry the better, I don't see why it would reduce your evade chance, but maybe...
This game is so complicated... buh


You misunderstand me. I don't mean that having parry REDUCES chance to evade, what I mean is that if parry is calculated before evade, having more parry will realistically mean you evade less, as there is more chance of parrying an attack, and thus not evading it instead. But it seems the case according to people in this thread that evade is calculated first, so its a moot point.


In that wase I would definatly try my gimp spec

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