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Luydor
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Postby Luydor » Jul 05, 2010 11:47

Heho,

First that isn´t a flame, I just want to help you maybe a little bit.

Midgard Caster groups can be really decent, i played in such grp setups sometimes. So i have some experience with caster groups.

To get a Caster Group work you should have a decent Setup for that. A debuffer is very important, nuking on 50% isn´t that cool.
The best Castersetups i played in where look like that:

Healer Pac
Healer Aug
Shaman
Warrior/Thane
Dark RM
Dark RM/BD/Spritmaster/RM Supp
Cave RM
Skald/Berserker/Svg

One of the main problems for a caster grp is CC, the Caster doesn´t have something like Det and they have only one time purge in a fight the most times which is often needed for ns. Many CC Spells have a dmg type like body or energy which the Aug Healer have. Anyway most times one healer have to heal. So there isn´t really a need of two pacis, one should enough.

Warrior is the most time better then a Thane because of Stoi, but thane can nuke with the cast assist what is sometimes good, but the enemys tanks are often on the caster so probably a Thane doesn´t have oft time to cast.

The Caster Setup can be different, but in a caster grp there should be a debuffer. The other caster can be a Dark Sm / Dark RM / Supp RM / BD.
Utility on the Casters are well, but a should also have DMG, so a Dark RM is often well, high DMG and blue ns, he nuke with 500 - 600 dmg per nuke on a debuffed target. A BD have a instant ll, but the main dmg make a bd also with the baseline nuke, the instant ll is more a cool to have. A Spritmaster have utility, dex/qui and str/con debuff AoE, demezz and a pet, but he also make not so many dmg as a Dark RM.

The Tanks in the front is also important. You can make a caster grp without a offense tank, but then you have really often not much rupt in the enemey grp. A Skald have a problem with CC put it can rupt well, and have Speed and SoS. Both is important for a caster grp. Speed 5 for the incoming situation. Fast spread out and a paci can better mezz with speed 5 often and SoS if many caster are in root for example. A Svg and a Berserker are also cool for a caster grp. A Tank in a caster grp have to play well. it really important that he kite with the grp and just go sometimes out to hit someone from the supporters or sometimes take the tanks form the enemys as target.

Fun grp is ok for a caster grp, but it is a matter what you mean with fun,
with you don´t have a problem to train a little bit and also can say other player what was maybe not so good after a wipe then it is ok, but to play a caster grp well it is need to try to improve the DAoC skills, i think.

Greetz Luydor
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Postby Iceer » Jul 05, 2010 12:23

nixian wrote:What exactly is bugged with suppression spec? haven't heard that before


Damage Snare, AE Damage Snare, Confusion, Pulsing Blade Turn. I made a Bugreport in May in the german section but still no response in any form.




@Northforest: Runemaster dont have pets. We loosed most times against hibs cause their (often grey) pets rupted us. I know that a Runemaster deal more damage, but having Lifeleech and right debuff boosts SM survivalibility enormous.

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Postby Phileas » Jul 05, 2010 15:04

if i'm on one of my chars, (useful for that setup: phileas, hepilas (paci) or maybe even siegfriedsson (skald)) give me a yell whenever you miss your 8th member, i love midgard caster groups and have been part of one or two in the past 3 years ;)

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Postby Tirax » Jul 07, 2010 14:04

If just NF RAs would stay.

It would be total fun to play with.

2 healer
shaman
2 thane
rm
sm
Bd/sm

all frostalfs. :)

i totally enjoyed playing caster thanes on every freeshard.
But with OF RAs.... Poor thanes.

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Postby Gorim » Jul 07, 2010 15:05

Hey Crush,

i'd join in with Warrior if Natally is busy or with DarkRM.
Skald would be possible too, but on your request was no need for Skald, was only in Luydors suggestion.
Also can spare a 2nd RM (Carv-RM) for your testing but not for playing it because i dont like it.

Send me if i am wanted or needed ;-)

Regards

Ace :D

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Postby Ithiggi » Jul 07, 2010 16:14

Iceer wrote:
nixian wrote:What exactly is bugged with suppression spec? haven't heard that before


Damage Snare, AE Damage Snare, Confusion, Pulsing Blade Turn. I made a Bugreport in May in the german section but still no response in any form.


What is wrong with snare nukes ? both single and aoe ?
I have a 49 Sup RM although I haven't played him for a while it seemed to work fine. The pbt seemed to work vs. realm enemies as well.
PBT seems not to work as well vs. higher lvl mobs, I never had a problem vs. hibs or albs.
Confusion yes this spell is broken but its use in rvr would be very limited.

I have played in caster groups on live servers sup,dark sm,sup RM,hexlock and bd. Here I have 50 sup SM,49 sup RM,50 pacmend heal,50 aug sham and a skald. I would be willing to join your group send me a PM here if intreseted.
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Postby Iceer » Jul 07, 2010 16:21

Snare/ae Snare DD's eat up too much Power. If the target resists the Snare effect, he also resists the Damage.

PBT puts you in combat if one bubble of your mates gets destroyed. In an eightman group i never was able to use mcl, only RP and Pots. Thats why i respecced back to darkness.

And Confusion was very useful against any petclasses. Imagine what an enchanter does when his own casterpet attacks himself? Or Animist shrooms rooting their own group?





@Ace: Sure! But Mumble is a must have. I take a distance from Teamspeak, cause it sucks. If you're still interested, contact me via forumpm or ingame.

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Postby Docz » Jul 07, 2010 16:57

kobolds rules!!




:D

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Postby Gorim » Jul 07, 2010 17:46

Iceer wrote:@Ace: Sure! But Mumble is a must have. I take a distance from Teamspeak, cause it sucks. If you're still interested, contact me via forumpm or ingame.

I'm gonna download that strange Program laters and check if u are inGame :D
Still at work so i keep this post short, bc less typing = faster arriving home ;-P

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Postby Iceer » Jul 07, 2010 19:53

Well Ace, today is football half final (Germany Vs. Spain at 20:30 GMT+1). I dunno if i can get online later, cause i have to celebrate that we are in the final :D


Goodluck and good evening!

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Postby bawww » Jul 07, 2010 23:18

That celebration must be going wild.
Apoc315 wrote:The Theurge play is way more easy than a zerk

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Postby Gorim » Jul 08, 2010 11:05

Was good that i played DAoC after half time, because germany had lost ....
Was nice game anyway... ;-)

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Postby Iceer » Jul 08, 2010 14:17

bawww wrote:That celebration must be going wild.


Yes, it does. It is like Sex after a discussion -> Rage is best!

Well, Spain played very well (except Pedro). Nice Game though.

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Postby Iceer » Jul 08, 2010 18:22

Hey Fellas.

I deleted all my Characters and my Account is gone.

In order to keep this alive, please inform Qeo, he is the new Leader of this thing.

I am out now.



Greetings

Iceer

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Postby QeoSereai » Jul 08, 2010 18:48

Iceer wrote:Hey Fellas.

I deleted all my Characters and my Account is gone.



Args, bad to hear that :( may you tell me why?

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