Braxis wrote:I have nothing against casual ppl.

But I have everything against ppl who zerg, and in doing so make the rest of the server log out of endgame RvR...

/sign

Braxis wrote:I have nothing against casual ppl.

But I have everything against ppl who zerg, and in doing so make the rest of the server log out of endgame RvR...

So better log out and QQ instead to try to form a counter zerg (which in most cases would be enough to have 2 uber 8-slot gank grps running together to whipe the zergers once and split again afterwards).

The zergers are not the only one ruining the rvr by zerging, the others logging out are also part of the no rvr game.

Think about it... the normal rvr day for a casual player looks like being ganked the whole day by 8vs8 gank grps, so he does not participate in rvr at all.
So those few gank grp players are ruining the fun of a lot more casual players every day.
And when the casual player dare to fight back by zerging the gank grp players all cry "so unfair", "that's not rvr", "stop that or we log out".

As much as i love nice 8vs8 fights, i would wish a daily zerg from all three realms would be established in emain.

holsten-knight wrote:

Braxis wrote:I have nothing against casual ppl.

But I have everything against ppl who zerg, and in doing so make the rest of the server log out of endgame RvR...

So better log out and QQ instead to try to form a counter zerg (which in most cases would be enough to have 2 uber 8-slot gank grps running together to whipe the zergers once and split again afterwards).

The zergers are not the only one ruining the rvr by zerging, the others logging out are also part of the no rvr game.

Think about it... the normal rvr day for a casual player looks like being ganked the whole day by 8vs8 gank grps, so he does not participate in rvr at all.
So those few gank grp players are ruining the fun of a lot more casual players every day.
And when the casual player dare to fight back by zerging the gank grp players all cry "so unfair", "that's not rvr", "stop that or we log out".

As much as i love nice 8vs8 fights, i would wish a dayly zerg from all three realms would be established in emain.

This ^

A lot of people ding 50 , try the uber pro 8 vs 8 on emain and left Uthgard or get a lower char to play in battlegrouds, but hey who cares about them...

zaszeadora wrote:

holsten-knight wrote:

Braxis wrote:I have nothing against casual ppl.

But I have everything against ppl who zerg, and in doing so make the rest of the server log out of endgame RvR...

So better log out and QQ instead to try to form a counter zerg (which in most cases would be enough to have 2 uber 8-slot gank grps running together to whipe the zergers once and split again afterwards).

The zergers are not the only one ruining the rvr by zerging, the others logging out are also part of the no rvr game.

Think about it... the normal rvr day for a casual player looks like being ganked the whole day by 8vs8 gank grps, so he does not participate in rvr at all.
So those few gank grp players are ruining the fun of a lot more casual players every day.
And when the casual player dare to fight back by zerging the gank grp players all cry "so unfair", "that's not rvr", "stop that or we log out".

As much as i love nice 8vs8 fights, i would wish a dayly zerg from all three realms would be established in emain.

This ^

A lot of people ding 50 , try the uber pro 8 vs 8 on emain and left Uthgard or get a lower char to play in battlegrouds, but hey who cares about them...

More people than you think, aswell as the staff...

Dont misunderstand me, im up for all kind of rvr but premade 8 vs 8 grps complainig about zerg when we lack of rvr is a bit stupid, we need more people to fight no less, and new people/lowrank/ non wanted class/ no core guild deserve a bit of rvr more than keeps or missions and not a wipe after wipe on emain every night

zaszeadora wrote:Dont misunderstand me, im up for all kind of rvr but premade 8 vs 8 grps complainig about zerg when we lack of rvr is a bit stupid

I agree, it is stupid to full the grp only with high rr/known players. Sometimes you can find good players among the new fresh 4l2 out of thid (never ding 50 without 4l2), sometimes no. Let's give to the new lvls 50 a couple of chances, since full gank guild grps are now quite rare.

zaszeadora wrote:we need more people to fight no less, and new people/lowrank/ non wanted class/ no core guild deserve a bit of rvr more than keeps or missions and not a wipe after wipe on emain every night

Non wanted classes don't deserve a slot in grp, new ppl/low rr do. It's nice to discover new talents among fresh new lvls 50 ^^.
One of my guildmates had been playing caster classes for years and is now on an eldritch time to time, but he rarely find a grp coz high rrs on hib tend to grp with other high rrs/already known ppl.
That's a pity, a well played light eld is a real pain in the ass and doesn't require high rr since casting dds is the last thing he has to do in rvr.

holsten-knight wrote:

Braxis wrote:I have nothing against casual ppl.

But I have everything against ppl who zerg, and in doing so make the rest of the server log out of endgame RvR...

So better log out and QQ instead to try to form a counter zerg (which in most cases would be enough to have 2 uber 8-slot gank grps running together to whipe the zergers once and split again afterwards).

The zergers are not the only one ruining the rvr by zerging, the others logging out are also part of the no rvr game.

Think about it... the normal rvr day for a casual player looks like being ganked the whole day by 8vs8 gank grps, so he does not participate in rvr at all.
So those few gank grp players are ruining the fun of a lot more casual players every day.
And when the casual player dare to fight back by zerging the gank grp players all cry "so unfair", "that's not rvr", "stop that or we log out".

As much as i love nice 8vs8 fights, i would wish a daily zerg from all three realms would be established in emain.

I really dont understand you guys!?!?!?
I mean you all pressed the OF button on your fanatic crusade to god-old-times classic. Did you forgot that 8mans ruining RvR for everyone is pure classic? This is what classic was all about.
The power of set groups just dropped with mls and NF where every random casual noob got tools to not stand around 40 sek.
We had about 600 players per realm and only ~30 of them in emain.
SO you voted for "classic" now take it.


But with OF RAs comming every half decent 8man can kill 2-3 fg casuals just by pressing the button 1 on the Keyboard. This will result in the complete exodus of everyone who is not part of the "high soceity"
But i sound like a broken record, time will tell you.


@Topic: its pretty sad to have almost 0 mids in the battlegrounds.

Finalement wrote:It's simple.

Midgard was THE realm. More grps than Emain could handle. So after months of QQ they rerolled on another realm. Now Midgard is empty and they're all Alb/Hib. Cheers!

Btw, nice link to "O brothers where are tho", great movie

Maybe they changed to an other server ( with better rvr level ), or stoped totaly ( like me) ,because 4-5 fight by night +full qq is boring

Tirax wrote:But with OF RAs comming every half decent 8man can kill 2-3 fg casuals just by pressing the button 1 on the Keyboard.

Bullshit.

Back in the day 8mans could kill zergs because every single player in the zerg was terrible at daoc.

Sure, NF and espacially ToA made killings zergs harder, but players in zergs becoming better is what made it nearly impossible.

Having your 4 groups perfectly mezzed on inc and then bombed to death within seconds doesn´t mean bomb groups are overpowered but that you suck at daoc.

3 easy rules to be better at daoc then 80% of the pop:

-split up on inc
-don´t break cc
-spike damage

oh and also:
get voicechat: it´s NOT hard to use even with random groups

all it takes is

/macro voice /g "YOUR VOICE INFO HERE"

Yeah, a lot of players on Uthgard played DAoC for years on live. It's not the "everybody has no purge and attacks the tanks" zerg like in classic times.

Two decent groups have the advantage vs. a 8 man gank group in NF and will have at least a 50:50 Chance in OF.

just watch me solo the zergs

Jarysa wrote:

Tirax wrote:But with OF RAs comming every half decent 8man can kill 2-3 fg casuals just by pressing the button 1 on the Keyboard.

Bullshit.

Back in the day 8mans could kill zergs because every single player in the zerg was terrible at daoc.

Sure, NF and espacially ToA made killings zergs harder, but players in zergs becoming better is what made it nearly impossible.

Having your 4 groups perfectly mezzed on inc and then bombed to death within seconds doesn´t mean bomb groups are overpowered but that you suck at daoc.

3 easy rules to be better at daoc then 80% of the pop:

-split up on inc
-don´t break cc
-spike damage

oh and also:
get voicechat: it´s NOT hard to use even with random groups

all it takes is

/macro voice /g "YOUR VOICE INFO HERE"

If you call groups with perfect Setup and Voicechat "casual" thats your Problem. I talk about crap-groups that even invite some hybrids or have only 1 real healer. Even the worst gank-team can handle 2 fgs of them.
Especially with OF-RAs.

They wont play like you want, they just twink or quit and totally avoid RvR except for relic raids perhaps.

Just do me favor and put your stupid l2p arguments back into your ..... from where they come. Its getting old and is just a prove for your lack of social competence.
Go back to emain and run arround without inc for houers and stop whining like " Ohhh mids where are tho" This 8mans ruined Daoc on live-servers and now you start here.


I personally will probably never go to emain. I only know like 4 persons here, and i wont group with people i dont know, because loosing over and over against high ranked groups sucks. i just finisch my 2nd char now and then perhaps i change the realm. All together is more fun than seaching people for a 8man for houers, getting ganked 1-2 times and the first ones leave.

We have about 200 Players on alb every day and every time i type /who emain i get a number smaller than 30 where the most people are stealthers. But i guess they all suck at RvR.

Galdarn wrote:Yeah, a lot of players on Uthgard played DAoC for years on live. It's not the "everybody has no purge and attacks the tanks" zerg like in classic times.

Two decent groups have the advantage vs. a 8 man gank group in NF and will have at least a 50:50 Chance in OF.

lol and then? they will get flamed all the day, the 8man gank will quit and RvR is even more dead.

I just prefer to twink character number xxx or play a stealth.
And now type /who emain.

OT: I´d really like to have some beers with Tirax /cheer m8

tbh guys ... the fact that all of you guys just pve intensively is really laughable imho ... why the hell would you play daoc other than to rvr and have fun???

even if you do suck, bloody find a guild with other people who arn't so great and run a 12 slot!!!! if theres only high rr gank groups out to fight, bring more bloody people!! it would be a challenge for the gank group, and its better than doing endless tajendi.

so theres the question i basically wanted to ask:: why even bother playing daoc if your not going to rvr?

Rasta wrote:tbh guys ... the fact that all of you guys just pve intensively is really laughable imho ... why the hell would you play daoc other than to rvr and have fun???

even if you do suck, bloody find a guild with other people who arn't so great and run a 12 slot!!!! if theres only high rr gank groups out to fight, bring more bloody people!! it would be a challenge for the gank group, and its better than doing endless tajendi.

so theres the question i basically wanted to ask:: why even bother playing daoc if your not going to rvr?

1. To chat with others while doing something senseless ^^
2. To drink and still be doing something while not being challenged too much skillwise