what class is able to do good solo both Pve and RvR and still can get into grps for Pve and RvR

i would say enchanter for easy leveling etc.

But most classes are usable in groups RvR and PvE wise, except maybe the stealth classes obviously.

choose a ranger, u can kill all kind of classes in rvr and u can tank bossmobs and u can detect stealther in grp.

Methusalem wrote:choose a ranger, u can kill all kind of classes in rvr and u can tank bossmobs and u can detect stealther in grp.

no so much after old RAs which will come soon

I suggest:

Mentalist
Enchanter
Hero


for a decent/good pve + rvr toon

there is no char like that in hib.

enchanters come close but lack cc to be a decent solo class in rvr.
stealthers are useless in grps.
all other visibles lack in soloability.

elds lack speed. so do ments and all tanks. bards can´t kill stuff. wardens have no cc and their groupability is questionable.

what you are looking for is a sorc or minstrel.

Jarysa wrote:there is no char like that in hib.

enchanters come close but lack cc to be a decent solo class in rvr.
stealthers are useless in grps.
all other visibles lack in soloability.

elds lack speed. so do ments and all tanks. bards can´t kill stuff. wardens have no cc and their groupability is questionable.

what you are looking for is a sorc or minstrel.

Yeah sure, High Growth Rate Styles, 120dmg per tick, str/con-debuff, Diseas (!) and unbreakable slow is not worth any grp-slot..

Better take another BM...

final really suggest NS as group char?

Finalement wrote:

Jarysa wrote:there is no char like that in hib.

enchanters come close but lack cc to be a decent solo class in rvr.
stealthers are useless in grps.
all other visibles lack in soloability.

elds lack speed. so do ments and all tanks. bards can´t kill stuff. wardens have no cc and their groupability is questionable.

what you are looking for is a sorc or minstrel.

Yeah sure, High Growth Rate Styles, 120dmg per tick, str/con-debuff, Diseas (!) and unbreakable slow is not worth any grp-slot..

Better take another BM...

And imba counter CC abilities!

Not to mention NS is an imba solo pve char~~

To the topic:

Mana menta owns in pve. And you can do really well in solo pvp and rvr as rr5+ light ment. You will get rr5 mount then so speed is not a problem.

Just.. This rr5 is hard to get^^

Cespx wrote:You will get rr5 mount then so speed is not a problem

Just.. This rr5 is hard to get^^

The RR5 mount is a lot harder to get than RR5 itself. At least... the 15 plat is imo, for a new player..

Zarkor wrote:

Cespx wrote:You will get rr5 mount then so speed is not a problem

Just.. This rr5 is hard to get^^

The RR5 mount is a lot harder to get than RR5 itself. At least... the 15 plat is imo, for a new player..

True:D

But you can spend some time on siabras and should be fine.
I know an enchi that made lvls 42-49 on siabras with 100++ P income:D

It just takes time.
A lot of time^^

Siabra drops were nerfed.

1p mount for RR0 > RR5 mount


1. no quest
2. speed aint that much higher on RR5 horse
3. 14p cheaper

Im surprised nobody has mentioned VW as a great choice of solo/group rvr and pve class.

ive heard rumors that with OF RA it might change, but i dont see it changing dramatically though.

you can definitely solo easily, just learn how to score a side stun and a finishing combo (kills 90% of classes in three hits) and play smart, using your great life tap and snare/dot to rupt or to cause serious headaches to your opponents.

i actually used to hate theurgs who would pwn my skald until i tried fighting them on a VW and boy was i surprised how easy they were. life tap life tap life tap ->dead theurg, before his pets even get to you. then just kill the pets with 1 hit/pet. last i played, i managed to protect a keep against 5 albs, 2 stealthers and three casters who were trying to break the gate.
once i killed the sorc and the caba, just jumped down and life tapped/side stunned the rest, then go back upstairs and wait for them to come back.

as for the group value -> i am often used as a mini tank and since your side combo is a total killer, most of the time playing a support vw will guarantee a win for your group.

you're good for rupting too and for holding on against melee attacks, so healers dont need to worry about you. overall a great support/annoyance class imo.

same goes for pve.
great for solo (chaining yellows or oranges, using life tap to heal)
and for groups (tanking or support with side attack).

terragon wrote:Im surprised nobody has mentioned VW as a great choice of solo/group rvr and pve class.

ive heard rumors that with OF RA it might change, but i dont see it changing dramatically though.

you can definitely solo easily, just learn how to score a side stun and a finishing combo (kills 90% of classes in three hits) and play smart, using your great life tap and snare/dot to rupt or to cause serious headaches to your opponents.

i actually used to hate theurgs who would pwn my skald until i tried fighting them on a VW and boy was i surprised how easy they were. life tap life tap life tap ->dead theurg, before his pets even get to you. then just kill the pets with 1 hit/pet. last i played, i managed to protect a keep against 5 albs, 2 stealthers and three casters who were trying to break the gate.
once i killed the sorc and the caba, just jumped down and life tapped/side stunned the rest, then go back upstairs and wait for them to come back.

as for the group value -> i am often used as a mini tank and since your side combo is a total killer, most of the time playing a support vw will guarantee a win for your group.

you're good for rupting too and for holding on against melee attacks, so healers dont need to worry about you. overall a great support/annoyance class imo.

same goes for pve.
great for solo (chaining yellows or oranges, using life tap to heal)
and for groups (tanking or support with side attack).

VW is a great class indeed. Just... You must have det5 for RvR which means you wont be that effective in solo PvP. Since proc dmg is bugged VW lost one of his best weapons. Because of really too high block for no-shield-spec classes VW desperately needs a BM duo friend and as you will notice most hib grps run 4 casters setup these days.

At the end... 1.69 patch + OF ras will totaly destroy VW. Because of no det/stoi nobody will inv you to RvR grp - obvious. Solo PvP shouldnt look that bad because of dodger and long reuse timer for purge (side chain on stun will be easier than now vs purge3) But still you will lose conflag.

So. If you plan to play RvR mostly... You ofc can. But it has no future:D
I must add i have a quite high RR VW myself and i hope we will get det with OF ras. But those are just dreams:D

Cespx

tbh i think a lot of this is still speculation

we will only know what;s going to happen once OF RA actually come out and we get to experience it on our own.

I personally believe that all classes will be gimped somehow, so most classes will have a fair chance to get into fg.

obviously not all fgs run perfect setup and im sure it will be possible to get into one even as a vale.


if nothing else, just for the sakes of pure damage with the side style and disease proc, which i believe works quite well. unless im mistaken