There is truth in this.

I got "target is too far away to attack" and "target is not in view" on the same swing (ofc I missed), how is that possible ?

Jonah wrote:

Dragoonn wrote:we want only to hear a staff opinion! if it will be fixed, or if it is normal!

stop

The staff took this "feature" away as it was a custom thing and not live like, they want it like live like so the chanse of getting this utterly fool fix back is slim and none.
So just learn to play and time PA like u have to do on live, easymode is gone. And btw what u want PA for, u only zerg with ur infil buddies anyway.

hey my love! i playd years on live, and on live there is delay too !

So dont speak if u dont know!

and if now, with new patches, delay is removed from live, uthgard has olders patch, and dont need to remove delay too

Jonah wrote:

Dragoonn wrote:we want only to hear a staff opinion! if it will be fixed, or if it is normal!

stop

The staff took this "feature" away as it was a custom thing and not live like, they want it like live like so the chanse of getting this utterly fool fix back is slim and none.
So just learn to play and time PA like u have to do on live, easymode is gone. And btw what u want PA for, u only zerg with ur infil buddies anyway.

Just another Assassin-hater
Not every Infi zergs and is bad.
Stfu and stick to the topic and don't flame.
If old Live-Players say that the delay is correct, then the delay IS correct. Get used to it, you only want to play your Non-Stealtherclass without assassins. The problem here is: Assassins are Patch 1.00. I can't understand the Assassinhaters. Oh no they have Stealth! Oh no Druids have heals! Oh no, Casters can cast!
If you don't have to say sth OT stfu my dear

Uthgard worked fine with the delay, so why changing it? Before the change, I'm sure there were no players complaining about it. Now there are. Bad solution imo. No offence to the Staff but: Never stop a running system

So far..
Fin

Finalement wrote:Uthgard worked fine with the delay, so why changing it? Before the change, I'm sure there were no players complaining about it. Now there are. Bad solution imo. No offence to the Staff but: Never stop a running system

It got changed because people complained they failed at reactionary styles. In fact it got changed because some people simply lacked skill and whined about it...

Zarkor wrote:

Finalement wrote:Uthgard worked fine with the delay, so why changing it? Before the change, I'm sure there were no players complaining about it. Now there are. Bad solution imo. No offence to the Staff but: Never stop a running system

It got changed because people complained they failed at reactionary styles. In fact it got changed because some people simply lacked skill and whined about it...

How u all whine now! ) ahahahaha , i got no probs with it.

What reactionaries you only use doublefrost

Dragoonn wrote:
hey my love! i playd years on live, and on live there is delay too !

So dont speak if u dont know!

and if now, with new patches, delay is removed from live, uthgard has olders patch, and dont need to remove delay too

I have to agree with u after playing some more, the problem seems not beeing the delay, its that u always get out of view when openening from stealth, therefor u often miss ur style. The delay earlier worked out to "disquise" this bugg.

*Proof* At this picture i spammed my style button as i attacked a semiafk enemy. I was at the right distance and had no lagg. STILL i get out of view.




Will make a buggreport!

Jonah wrote:

Dragoonn wrote:
hey my love! i playd years on live, and on live there is delay too !

So dont speak if u dont know!

and if now, with new patches, delay is removed from live, uthgard has olders patch, and dont need to remove delay too

I have to agree with u after playing some more, the problem seems not beeing the delay, its that u always get out of view when openening from stealth, therefor u often miss ur style. The delay earlier worked out to "disquise" this bugg.

*Proof* At this picture i spammed my style button as i attacked a semiafk enemy. I was at the right distance and had no lagg. STILL i get out of view.





Will make a buggreport!

Get some live tests in there aswell pls.

so any news about this, since it still blows, to fail the first style because of the out of view/too far away message( and ofc the unstyled comes right after the message)

elTakapiru wrote:so any news about this, since it still blows, to fail the first style because of the out of view/too far away message( and ofc the unstyled comes right after the message)

Make a bugreport to show it's not working as intended with livetests as proof and u'll get quicker results I think. ;(

personally i think the melee code does need a little cleaning. the delay removal implimented several new bugs.

against stationary targets i only have about a 1 in 5 chance to get off my first style. my shadowblade does not have critical strike specced, so against a stationary target i always start with a backstyle. about 80% i will get an out of view and unstyled hit against a sitting or stationary target. i specced out of CS because of this, as after the delay removal for 2 weeks i didn't land a single PA. say i suck or play bad if you wish, but before the change i never got this bug and i landed all styles on stationary targets. moving targets is always a problem for me anyways because i ping around 200 to uthgard and it's hard to tell where people really are ^^

i like my non-CS spec now, i think it's much better. would be ideal if these melee glitches got fixed in time. for now i'll roll with the punches, however, as i am not experienced enough in this to make an accurate live test. i just know how it was before and after the delay removal on uthgard.

True.
Is not affecting only Stealthers, I know that PA/BS now is hard to land, but, I have some tanks lv50, since the delay removal, I get a lot of "out of view" log messages (even with perfect ping), being almost impossible to land a back/side/front style when the enemy is not just standing. And even worse, supporters classes are abusing from this to avoid meleers do styles in them (I wont explain here how to do it, to prevent more new abusers, but I could explain it by pm to GM's).

Days ago I reported it by /appeal, and I did not get gm response.

its virtually impossible to not abuse this bug. you would have to stop play til they fix it if you don't want to abuse it ^^

Astealoth wrote:its virtually impossible to not abuse this bug. you would have to stop play til they fix it if you don't want to abuse it ^^

So true.. and then to think the delay removal actually got implemented due to a handful of whines about not being able to perform reactionary styles with 2h weapons.

WTH?