@realac0
You are a funny dude, I did open with icestorm from the side so there cant be any evade and I told you that I am melee spec with some bowspec too, so where the hell is my damage op? (keep in mind rangers dont have poisons AND have the better armor plus spec af).

Still Infs do hit me for 100+ mainhand and my damage with debuff sometimes is only max about 120 (yes, with 1,28 growthrate style too!). Moreover, dual wield/celtic dual does half evade so why should they evade 60% of the hits?

On the other hand, so assassins dont benefit from new RAs like vanish for all, viper3 for all and purge3?

Additionally, where is the blades stun for rangers/ns or the abs debuff of the hib cd or blades line (dont remember because when that ****** moved live I havent played their since months).

So Zeak isnt supposed to be a Ranger in his vid, right?

Ronian, u are right, all work as intended, and is correct u and other rangers farm infs/sb's all day!!!
ok?
i am really bored of talk with ppl that never played live or, if played, don't want say what is the real situation of archers.

have u ever played an assassin on live? me yes, pre and post toa (sb and inf)
have u ever played an archer on live? me yes, pre and post toa (hunter/ranger)

as assassins, i always owned on melee archers, always, on every patch, every server. As assin i always eveded like hell against rangers, every patch, every server.
as ranger, i was going to be good melee spec only if ra's (ip/purge) was up and if i was running with poisons on weapon (like quivna).
all the other times, with ra's down, i was going to be free rp's.

U talk me about rangers vids, lol, u want i start post u video of infs/sb's that totally destroy rangers even if they use ip? there are a lot on the net, a lot more than your rangers vids.

rangers are archers,and archers NEVER BE the assassins killer, NEVER BE, and never WILL BE.

have fun with your bugged char, i will not post again.

I played NS and I only try here chars I never played before. NS was awesome strong on live. 250+ mainhand with blades (ok with buffbots).

Anyway, the only bugged thing here is the PA damage (because it is fixed and doesnt work like it is supposed to work). It makes way too high here especially vs PD. Got 6xx PA today on PD4 and that was my PA damage on non sitting casters on live.

So what exactly is bugged about rangers? You only flame and dont state the bugs accordingly with some bugreports like Eclipsed told you several times.

Just watched EDEN Ranger Vid and he jumps fulltanks with 30% life and still kills the target. Impossible on Uthgard.

I never saw the need to run venomed weapons on live on a ranger, esp pre evade and dual wield changes and that was running hybrid spec not full melee. Now rangers on live are worthless.

I have a 50 la 39sword sb with mos3, I cant say rangers are unbalanced. Meet one solo is hard though, play at odd hours or skip going to amg to make that happen.

Those fotm melee rangers ~rr5 it's nice even fights aslong as you have some buffs up. The mos5 high rr bowspec ones (one day I get you Tzaa! ) is almost always instaloss if you dont find them afk

And I understand those who rely on landing critstyles on camo/high mos classes, it's not happening often...

I love when they compare damage, like ranger is op because he is doing 120 or so. While i fight a infi doing 97 dmg vs 26%+12 PD. Now some would say, well the infi should be doing even more, well i and many rangers use a 3.9 spd weapon or even slower, while this infi was using a 2.9 spd dirk. If he was using a 3.9 id bet he would do about 130ish, vs PD3, RF armor, spec AF.

I wonder how many assasins that are complaining about dmg comparison, are using fast weapons and expecting slow weapon damages.

Can an Infiltrator activate camoflauge and move into position without being detected by MoS, then Crit Shot its target from 1000 units away for 600+ damage, melee it down with side-stun and Str/Damage Add buff, detect an incoming assassin with MoS 3 before it can perf, use RR5 to stun and then pop Speed Shout to kite away?

Can an Infiltrator do all that?

Eclipsed wrote:I love when they compare damage, like ranger is op because he is doing 120 or so. While i fight a infi doing 97 dmg vs 26%+12 PD. Now some would say, well the infi should be doing even more, well i and many rangers use a 3.9 spd weapon or even slower, while this infi was using a 2.9 spd dirk. If he was using a 3.9 id bet he would do about 130ish, vs PD3, RF armor, spec AF.

I wonder how many assasins that are complaining about dmg comparison, are using fast weapons and expecting slow weapon damages.

Yes, you stupid infi noobs, just use slowest weapons and you will outdamage every ranger!

Seyha wrote:Can an Infiltrator activate camoflauge and move into position without being detected by MoS, then Crit Shot its target from 1000 units away for 600+ damage, melee it down with side-stun and Str/Damage Add buff, detect an incoming assassin with MoS 3 before it can perf, use RR5 to stun and then pop Speed Shout to kite away?

Can an Infiltrator do all that?

Have you forgotten we are going to old stealth system/Ra's. Most likely all this will change. Also, they do have a form of stun, off of an evade , but with evade 7, they have a better chance to do this. They also have poisons to counter self buffs, and if a assasin has high MoS, all they need is a dd charge to intrupt a non camo archer, unless they go for a PA, so kiting then stealthing isnt an option and still can use dd charge to intrupt from 1500 units. But do you see them every using a dd charge to intrupt. NOPE.

Tuttar wrote:I have a 50 la 39sword sb with mos3, I cant say rangers are unbalanced. Meet one solo is hard though, play at odd hours or skip going to amg to make that happen.

Those fotm melee rangers ~rr5 it's nice even fights aslong as you have some buffs up. The mos5 high rr bowspec ones (one day I get you Tzaa! ) is almost always instaloss if you dont find them afk

And I understand those who rely on landing critstyles on camo/high mos classes, it's not happening often...

Finally a SB with some skill it seems.. and look he's not whining at PD or melee rangers.. its the bow specced MoS5 ones he has trouble against.. and all realms can get that..

Ronian wrote:Anyway, the only bugged thing here is the PA damage (because it is fixed and doesnt work like it is supposed to work). It makes way too high here especially vs PD. Got 6xx PA today on PD4 and that was my PA damage on non sitting casters on live.

please post that as a screenshot. my SB is 44cs +16 and she does about 350 PA on pd4 rangers.
that's why i have problems believing such a PA, but maybe there's a RR10 assassin with 50cs +20 and attacking with crush weapons or you were not wearing a part of your armor.

Ronia stop lie , 1 month ago i tried to respec 50 cs for check perf damage, i perf you for 350... no way someone perfed you for 600... and /rofl when you critical shot 650 with 35 bow -.-'

Breeze wrote:Finally a SB with some skill it seems.. and look he's not whining at PD or melee rangers.. its the bow specced MoS5 ones he has trouble against.. and all realms can get that..

lol, no they can't. Rangers are even better at killing other archers. How is a Hunter or Scout supposed to operate with 40 active Rangers in RvR? I have watched Scouts /sit as soon as they were uncovered by a Ranger because they knew it was hopeless.

Just accept that you play a broken class and don't deserve the RR you get, especially RR11

Noir wrote:Ronia stop lie , 1 month ago i tried to respec 50 cs for check perf damage, i perf you for 350... no way someone perfed you for 600... and /rofl when you critical shot 650 with 35 bow -.-'

430+170 crit, anyway that is bugged damage because my Animist maybe gets a little bit more damage (welcome to fixed PA+BS damage on Uthgard)

Ronian wrote:430+170 crit

Do we really have to discuss why listing +crit damage as if it were base damage is misleading?