nixian wrote:Where did I say that? paranoid much mr. everyone hates archers? ^^

I simply said that he had the ability to get 500 fletching even with lgm weaponcrafter

couldn't bother my archer is a hunter not worth wasting time into raising a skill for a toon I will only play every 30 min oh wait I can craft for 30 min then rvr for 60 sec then craft for 30 min this might work !!

Ithiggi wrote:

nixian wrote:Where did I say that? paranoid much mr. everyone hates archers? ^^

I simply said that he had the ability to get 500 fletching even with lgm weaponcrafter

couldn't bother my archer is a hunter not worth wasting time into raising a skill for a toon I will only play every 30 min oh wait I can craft for 30 min then rvr for 60 sec then craft for 30 min this might work !!

Well so sorry for trying to help you then

@ Nixian

What you implied in your response, was that a fix is not needed for him, because he should be able to still get fletching. This was a person who is also requesting a fix, and not having to be forced into fletching. The issue about being a diffrent kinda crafter was just an example. What if his crafter was a LGM alchemist, he cant get fletching then.

And im not saying that you or others are bias, just that some could start to think that, when such archery bugs are ignored/delayed, un-answered bug reports closed before any real fixes. So far the only major fix was rapid fire end cost and even then a bug came from that, and wasnt investated into right away, as other ones would have.

Since the Rapid fire end cost fix was done, after tons and tons and tons of proof and endless discussions, since it got fixes, oviously there must not be a bias, but while there is still much more to be done, and such things take place, some archers may start to think its because its archery and its going to have a low priority right away, no matter how importent it may or may not be.

And all this was happening way before any annoucements for OF RAs and patch changes.

I seriously think archers need to take it cool, sit down.. and wait..

Believe me if I had made as many bumps and as many requests for the fixes needed on NS/assassins.. wow staff would be overwhelmed with reading stupid 10000 bump threads..

Yes you are affected
Yes you are bugged
Yes they should be fixed

No you are not the centre of the universe, staff knows you are bugged and will get to it.. until then: sit down, and WAIT like good kids in school.. please.. I am really getting frustrated at the many bumps and claims on how biased and overlooked you are.. believe me.. other classes feel JUST the same about the bugs that affect them.. you are not special in any way (sorry if it hurts to hear that, but you aren't..)..

I personaly am sorry for the many related bumps and complaints, and im sure other archers are too. But the reason we are frustrated is because many of these bugs are quiet old, and have not gotten priority yet, so many are upset and posting bump after bump.

Im sure if you where not part of the staff, and there where a great number of bugs related to your NS/assasins, and was fully reported with more then enough proof, but hasnt gotten a fix for weeks, months, years. After so long, im sure it would drive you to where we are.

We are sorry, but we all are doing this because we have been waiting a long time for fixes. I will cut back on my bumps for a little while, to make it easyer on you and the other staff/devs, but not forever. And i hope other archers will try to hold back a little and give them a chance to prove us wrong, when they can do so. But that is what ill do, i cant speak for everyone as im only one of many archers.

Classes can't feel they really don't exist. My hunter is chilled like ICE the only thind its done in the past month is make weapons /wink.
Is it your place to tell us to calm down like good kids? tell me to calm down ?
last cop that told me that put me in jail!!

1. You have no idea what we feel.

2. Maybe just maybe you should take your own advice.

3. and yes I am special in every way just who do you think you are ?

peace and love lets all become hibs and grow florwers

@ eclipsed: Do you really want me to find nightshade/assassin bugs that are as old as this one?

Add Bow Proc Feature (2 years, 8 months, 1 week, 5 days Old)

Because I can, however I do not bump those threads 5 times/day


@ Ithiggi

1. I know 100% how you feel, I have empathy, I have tried having a bugged class, I have tried waiting for years for stuff to happen.. believe me.. ive been there..

2. Exactly which one do you refer to? I don't see me personally bumping threads 5 times / day and turn topics into "my issues topics"? Personally I fail to see where I don't follow my own advice, please enlighten me.

3. I am a person who has to deal with all kind of players, all kind of forum related issues, all kind of bugreports, all kind of spam topics, all kind of YOU NAME IT, and I've been there.. I tell you.. you are not special and your class is nothing special.. lots of classes have issues like archers

Personally I wish you would become hib, maybe it would help you understand what peace love and harmony can do to the staff and their motivation to do something..

nixian wrote:Personally I wish you would become hib, maybe it would help you understand what peace love and harmony can do to the staff and their motivation to do something..

word

and yes ithiggi, we all are special.... so we all aren't... hmk?

@ Nixian

Go ahead, show me a NS/assasin bug that is about 2 years old, importent to the class, has more then enough proof to support the bug, and now falls into the upcoming server setup. Then find about 3 - 5 more after that , which is also affects the ns/assasin as much. Hey maybe i can help find more proof on such bugs, as my friend is playing a NS. I just need a link to the bug reports.

But anyway as i said in my last post, we are upset because of the multiple bugs that has been known for sometime, and that would be one reasons someone responses harshly. Not that its ok to do, but that is why its happening. We the archers should try and becauseful of what we say, as we still need to remember, the staff are normal people just like us and do have feelings and im sure also real busy. But i hope the staff, realise that its nothing personal, and that they are upset because they like to stay on uthgard, but there fav class they play has many bugs that havent gotten the attation they believe it should have. We ( archers ) need to cool down a little, while the staff still needs to understand we do have are reasons to be upset, just need to try not to be so harsh about it.

nixian wrote:Personally I wish you would become hib, maybe it would help you understand what peace love and harmony can do to the staff and their motivation to do something..

This is incredible, i've a new thing to add to my sign.

Seyha wrote:If I get hit by str/con debuff I am rooted to the ground.

You get rooted w/ just a str/con debuff or both str and str/con debuff? Do they even stack?

Celad wrote:

nixian wrote:Personally I wish you would become hib, maybe it would help you understand what peace love and harmony can do to the staff and their motivation to do something..

This is incredible, i've a new thing to add to my sign.

May I just add that it was you who said hib was the peace love and harmony realm I just told you I would like you to become a fan of peace love and harmony, nothing else..


@ eclipse: Yes these might not be as old and might not be as fulfilled and awesome bugreports, but these is what I could be bothered to find.. but I would like to add something: try search for pet / immunity bugreports you would be surprised how many who has been asking for changes in that area for a long time without bumping and QQing and semi flaming as archers do atm ..


Poison sharing (afaik not fixed but some players found a workaround using vault) Nov 05, 2009

http://www.uthgard-server.net/modules.p ... 63&start=0


NS should be the only one with remedy (fixed soon due to old RAs) Aug 19, 2009

http://www.uthgard-server.net/modules.p ... 34&start=0

poisons being removed on logout:(dunno if you would consider this a "valid and throughout report") Feb 18, 2009

http://www.uthgard-server.net/modules.p ... sassin+ra5


poison stacking: (afaik there is some issues with this still as energy dot proc afaik dont stack with matter/body (crafted/lifebane)) Jul 14, 2008

http://uthgard-server.net/modules.php?n ... highlight=


2h PA dmg = 1h PA dmg (can't find any threads but this was I guess a custom change for some reason, I bet many SBs are tired of this)
- can't find any posts because I for some reason can't search for PA or 2h PA /ponder

http://www.uthgard-server.net/modules.p ... hadowblade (I found 1) May 27, 2008

nixian wrote:

Celad wrote:

nixian wrote:Personally I wish you would become hib, maybe it would help you understand what peace love and harmony can do to the staff and their motivation to do something..

This is incredible, i've a new thing to add to my sign.

May I just add that it was you who said hib was the peace love and harmony realm I just told you I would like you to become a fan of peace love and harmony, nothing else..

Me?

However: i prefer mid's zerkers fury , hib is so gay.

@ Nixian

Poison Sharing
- So what is the bug, that others cant use your poisons ? or that others have access to them, as on live they do share poisons and even worse they can use a bot, unlike on uthgard where some had found a work around. I think this minor inconvence should be praised, as it is much worse on live, and hardly something to QQ about.

Remedy
- This could be one, but would also mean giving assasination and shadow strike to the other two for there unique RR5, which im suprised no one had brought that up, as i dont think those are even implemented. This i can give you as something to be upset about.

Poison loss on logout
- Minor issue, and definitly not a great affect after you log in or while playing. Most likely an intended custom change to prevent poison botting of many weapons, then trade to other player.

Poison Stacking
- I know for a fact ive seen Lifebane + weapon/armor dot (matter) proc working at the same time. What doesnt work is stacking a heat dot charge/proc with another non poison dot. This gives assasins the only stacking dots for melee. Unless it got bugged recently/fixed recently. This is more of an advantage for assasins currently and a bug for everyone else. Minor issue for an assasin.

2H PA
- No actual Test Data shown, based on what the poster thinks, and at the end he says it was a mistake and asked for it to be closed. If it was or is bugged, it has no proof to support it and only affects SBs. Cant consider it a priorty as no real testing was done, so no reason for one to QQ about it.

So about 1 valid QQ, got any more to show me. The only ones i can say have as much priority is those who have unfinished classes, like Necro's, and others, like how the animist use to be. Massive number of class affecting bugs. Basicly when it comes down to it, Archery should be considered part of that poll that was taken, as " Completion of Classes " As archery on its own is a style of game play that is bugged with a number of issues. And when Old Ras come, archer will be even worse off with no RR5s for kiting, longer reuse on purge, and slow movement in stealth and more vulnrable in stealth vs assasins. Full bow spec isnt a likely choice after the revamp. Which would be another reason to add some priorty to some of the bugs, ether before or just after the revamp release.

Eclipsed wrote:@ Nixian

Poison Sharing
- So what is the bug, that others cant use your poisons ? or that others have access to them, as on live they do share poisons and even worse they can use a bot, unlike on uthgard where some had found a work around. I think this minor inconvence should be praised, as it is much worse on live, and hardly something to QQ about.

People who are using Poison and cannot spec into Envenom should have a VERY HIGH variance.

On Uthgard its 55-65 (on full resistance). Even the base damage is higher than a 11er damage add! Most ****** minstrels who are tasking use poison weapons and they hit annoying hard with that.