Heyas,
i looked myself into OF RA list and calculated that for my toons.
As i never really played Classic with KNOWING what i do, i beg you to help me a little^^

Now i wanna know some recommendations and tips by you for the calculate i did.

Here we go:
Bard [RR6l4, 54pts]

AM - 14pts (hell yea)
Purge - 10 pts
MCL 1 - 3 pts
LW1 - 1 pt
TL1 - 1pt
AugAc2 - 4 pts
Sere 1 - 1 pt
(so far we got 34 pts spent and a solid base i think)
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in addition i would go:
AugAc3 - 6 pts (for...)
MotA3 - 10 pts
AugDex2/Sere2 - 4pts

Bard questions:
- How are Tireless(1) and LongWind(1) compared to the ones nowadays? Should i grow them more up?
- Is MotA (which need AugAc3) worth it for Bard? Or better just go AugDex as nowadays?
- As for last 4 points, you think Sere2 or AugDex2 would be better? (I read about mana pool <50% nerf, and yet i got som issues with mana when i dont got pom3-4 on [Sere1/MCL1 atm])



Champ [RR5l0, 40pts]
I plan to be full solo specc when OF RA go live, so i choosed:
LW1 - 1 pt
TL2 - 4 pts
AugDex2 - 4 pts (for...)
MoPain3 - 10 pts
AugCon3 - 10 pts (for...)
AoPain2 - 9 pts (only active RA, 15min re-use)
MoBlock1 - 1 pt
MoParry1 - 1 pt
(MoBlock and MoParry are just toys, and yes i'll spec some smallweap)

missing:
First Aid -> IP
AugStr -> MoArms
Regeneration (?)
Purge (isnt worth it?)
WoC

Champ questions:
- How do you think about the missing(!) specs?
or how important are IP and MoArms?
- LW and TL values? do they need higher spec?(as asked above)
- How good/worth it is Wrath of Champions (remember it costs 10 pts and got 15min re-use)



Mentalist [RR5l4, 44pts]
(well, my menta isnt even 50, but i looked forward to a solid RA-Base and i think this need RR5L4)

Purge - 10 pts
MCL - 3 pts
LW1 - 1 pt
TL1 - 1 pt
AugAc3 - 10 pts (for...)
Sere1 - 1 pt (and...)
MotArts2 - 4 pts
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MoC - 14 pts (this is why 5l4 is needed, without, would be RR4l0 spec lol)
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well as you see, i give MoC a prominent state.


Menty questions:
- how important is MoC? Should i better go for other RA's and get it later as i wold need to wait up to RR5l4 until i finish my base-RAs?
- LW/TL values...
- AugDex missing...



Druid [RR5l0, 40pts]
Group Purge - 14 pts
Purge - 10 pts
LW1 - 1 pt
TL1 - 1 pt
AugAc2 - 4 pts (for...)
Sere1 - 1 pt
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still 6 points to spent....:
- MCL2?
- AugAc3 for MotA later on?
- AugDex?
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Druid questions:
well, look above
still:
- LW/TL values i need to specc?


Ok, that' all now

I would like to see some answers/recommendations/tips/whatever.

Regards

LW is always useful, same goes for Tireless. LW1 was used alot before when you could twist speed and end song, and always sprint, without having to worry about losing endurance.

I am definately getting both myself on my Hero. It is 2 points for alot of utility.

question was if it makes sense to specc more than lvl 1 on for example Tireless on Champion as champ needs more end in fight ect...

It would be a nice luxury, but there are better things to spend those realm points on.

ok thx for answer ciub,
some more for the other questions?

Hard to chose ras on bard imo. So many nice things. Luckily i got some points

Ill go for bard (10l2 spec) like:

Purge
Melodies
Mcl2
Aug Acuity 3
Moa4
AugDex3
Serenity2

Thats what needed as base imo.

Then i got 15 points left. Not sure about those but think ill spread them on passives like mastery of arcen/wild healing/master of healing etc. Maybe serenity3 if i need more power but think mcl2 ser2 and aug acuity3 is enough. More then i got atm.



For casters i plan for rr6. Hope ill ding it soon. With rr6 you can have a solid ra spec like. Then go full dmg. Caster need more rr

Moc
Purge
AugAcuity3
Serenity3
Moa2
Mom1
wp1
AugDex2


Then BM. Don't need that much rr. All above rr5 is fine and will be smth like:
Spec for rr5l5:

Det5
Prevent Flight (maybe ill grab this later and go for dmg first cause backnsare)
AugDex2
Mop2
Lw1

you poser maria

so for bard, do you think sere2 or augDex2 is more important first if u actually WOULD have to choose?

greez eley

Remember you can also chose MoC as a bard, some charplanners don't include it, but you definately could back in the day.

W0000000T
didnt know that hehe

Zarkor, you're my man
do you remember about how much TL was needed for tanks or better how was OF TL regarding to NF base-TL?

Zappo wrote:W0000000T
didnt know that hehe

Zarkor, you're my man
do you remember about how much TL was needed for tanks or better how was OF TL regarding to NF base-TL?

It seems logical to me that NF TL is OF TL lvl 1 seeing as endu regs work with points per tick. Endu reg 1 is 1 pt per tick and gives as much as tireless 1 with NF afaik.

I'm not 100% sure tho. If you wanna be sure, get someone to play endu1 for you and compare the regain with tireless. If it's the same, OF TL 1 = NF TL.

NF base TL doesn´t stack with end reg buffs. OF TL does so.

I wondered about moc. Ill get moc then ofc for the rest points

I would recommened Serenity2. Never ran without with bard here.

But dex is also nice to have. Maybe try dex2 first and see how often you run oom.

Jarysa wrote:NF base TL doesn´t stack with end reg buffs. OF TL does so.

#

means NF base TL gets overwritten by endu reg buff? (bard song/pot for example) never realized that

didnt get it exactly i think

Zappo wrote:means NF base TL gets overwritten by endu reg buff?

Yes.