and why

CS all the way.
I mean to 34 hehe

why?
vanish = 2x PA

anyone stupid enough to face a vanish speced INF will face a chance of being PAd twice rather than just once.
it's on 30 min timer of course, but still, quite worth it in my opinion.

basically, PA->CD, target is stunned. use vanish and PA again or
PA/CD fails. you have to fight face to face. use vanish and PC/CD. if you're badly hurt, apply snare and run away, while letting DOTs do the job or just finish the target.

but if you are DoTed or bleeding you better purge before you vanish or you might get popped out of stealth before you can PA. and good luck hitting anyone who is running around for positionals. guess you could land it after evade stun.

So the Infiltrator can attack immediately after using Vanish with OF RAs?

yes

PA CD PA CD was pretty common...every 30 minutes Not many classes that can survive this tbh.

mfassben wrote:PA CD PA CD was pretty common...every 30 minutes Not many classes that can survive this tbh.

wasnt so common at all. you mainly used it somewhere in the fight when you thought you might lose it


Despite that fact I would spec 50dw/50thrust on higher RR tho. It doesnt make any sense to build up your spec based on an 30min ra.

Helawow wrote:

mfassben wrote:PA CD PA CD was pretty common...every 30 minutes Not many classes that can survive this tbh.

wasnt so common at all. you mainly used it somewhere in the fight when you thought you might lose it


Despite that fact I would spec 50dw/50thrust on higher RR tho. It doesnt make any sense to build up your spec based on an 30min ra.

I would agree with that, but only at higher RR.

At low RR, you have to stay quiet, silent and deadly.
Once you grow up, you can cause some mayhem though.

As I am leveling an INF right now, I will probably end up goig 34 CS, 50 thrust, 35-39 envenom (depending on RR, it will go down every RR level) and the rest in DW.

pretty standard build I guess, but works well until later on.

after RR5, getting rid of CS might be worth it

I think the best spec is at 7l :

50 dw
39 cs
33 + 17 stealth
31 + 17 evenom
34 + 17 slash

U can deal good dmg with PA (about 450-600 dmg, it depends by the target, creeping death and the other following style in the pa combo).

U can double pa with vanish (in addition to the first pa u deal 1300+ dmg in 6 hits).

U have 50 anytime by dw (dual shadows, the strongest style of albion), and high rate to hit with both weapons.

U deal good damage with evade style by cs combo (harmstring, leaper, high grow rate, with Dodger 3 and d/q buffs u cap your evade chance, the same is for dw and dualist's reflexes).

Sure, without purge stun 7 secs on evade is hard, but i don't like easy game at all, slash ftw (u can go the same way even with thrust).

PS: Vanish is hard to use due to dots, bleeding and strafing (it's not to easy to make pa with vanish, u need some skill).

Don't take see hidden, i know is a good ability to make free rps vs archers (and yes because u will make free rps with archers, no matter what ppl says ), but there are most powerful ability u take to kill sb, ns and maybe other classes (isn't good for your health to inc a shielded tank without viper and purge ).

Holavez

however what you mean is True Sight, it's an Archer only RA.

and mastery of stealth only increases the movement speed while stealthed. (capping near or @ normal moving speed. i believed @ mos5 )

Cyan wrote:(isn't good for your health to inc a shielded tank without viper and purge ).

bad news for you. every infiltrator will never have viper on any inc

also

31 + 17 envenom = 48

means no lvl 50 DOT
so you lose potential dot damage right there.

50dw does sound good, but I would instead sacrifice CS and take it down to 34 rather than losing envenom.

PA/CD is good enuff in my book/

PC/CD-> apply poisons, run, vanish if you can , come back and repeat

terragon wrote:also

31 + 17 envenom = 48

means no lvl 50 DOT
so you lose potential dot damage right there.

Without viper the 50ish dot isnt that necessary. The 47 str/con debuff poison is the only one that you actually should have. Especially for low RR's I would rather drop envenom instead of anything else.

Maybe I'm trying 50dw/thrust, 32env, 35stealth, 10cs at rr5 (at till 40) here as it worked pretty well for me on live long time ago =)

Helawow wrote:

terragon wrote:also

31 + 17 envenom = 48

means no lvl 50 DOT
so you lose potential dot damage right there.

Without viper the 50ish dot isnt that necessary. The 47 str/con debuff poison is the only one that you actually should have. Especially for low RR's I would rather drop envenom instead of anything else.

Maybe I'm trying 50dw/thrust, 32env, 35stealth, 10cs at rr5 (at till 40) here as it worked pretty well for me on live long time ago =)

You are right mate, 10-15 dmg + doesn't matter, the poison u need are lv 47 debuff and 48 desease.

U got that 15 dot damages by Dual shadows (high bleeding over time).

With 39 cs u make 600 dmg (and more) by PA (it means with old vanish, 1200 dmg, btw it's all about player skill).

PS: I don't use viper, but some tanks still suck vs me .

Holavez

Cyan wrote:I think the best spec is at 7l :

50 dw
39 cs
33 + 17 stealth
31 + 17 evenom
34 + 17 slash

U can deal good dmg with PA (about 450-600 dmg, it depends by the target, creeping death and the other following style in the pa combo).

U can double pa with vanish (in addition to the first pa u deal 1300+ dmg in 6 hits).

U have 50 anytime by dw (dual shadows, the strongest style of albion), and high rate to hit with both weapons.

U deal good damage with evade style by cs combo (harmstring, leaper, high grow rate, with Dodger 3 and d/q buffs u cap your evade chance, the same is for dw and dualist's reflexes).

Sure, without purge stun 7 secs on evade is hard, but i don't like easy game at all, slash ftw (u can go the same way even with thrust).

PS: Vanish is hard to use due to dots, bleeding and strafing (it's not to easy to make pa with vanish, u need some skill).

Don't take see hidden, i know is a good ability to make free rps vs archers (and yes because u will make free rps with archers, no matter what ppl says ), but there are most powerful ability u take to kill sb, ns and maybe other classes (isn't good for your health to inc a shielded tank without viper and purge ).

Holavez

I completely agree with you. but this is spec is without autotrain. if you autotrain till lvl 32 at 7l you can spec:

39 CS
33 +17 Stealth
33 +17 Envenom
33 +17 Trust/Slah
50 DW

But what about for 4l? Better to use DualWield or Trust?

The options are this:

39 CS
36 Stealth
36 Envenom
26 Trust
50 DW


or

39 CS
36 Stealth
36 Envenom
50 Trust
26 DW

What do you think is the best one at low realm rank? and why?