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hopscotsch
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Postby hopscotsch » Jun 02, 2010 20:02

I think bgs from lvl 15-35 will be great. When I introduced new ppl to uthgard they got bored from the 20-30 leveling before even testing the bgs.

lvl 40+ chars can group up and kill solos/duos/gankers while exping in frontiers or zerg to kill lvl 50s or do guards tasks and claiming keeps. Gank groups may come and try to kill the expers and counter gank groups may come and defend them. I think it will be fun and is looking forward to it.

And yes OF RAs will be a big change but a correct change for a classic server. NF RAs are not balanced at the moment and neither will OF RAs be. Some custom balancing would be good but it would bring alot of crying about hate and love from the staff about certain classes/realms.

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Postby vangonaj » Jun 02, 2010 20:38

hopscotsch wrote:
lvl 40+ chars can group up and kill solos/duos/gankers while exping in frontiers or zerg to kill lvl 50s or do guards tasks and claiming keeps. Gank groups may come and try to kill the expers and counter gank groups may come and defend them. I think it will be fun and is looking forward to it.



This happened in old days.
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Postby Nymeros » Jun 02, 2010 20:44

BGs from lvl 15-35 will absolutely be great, I don't think anyone objects to that. It's the lack of higher level BGs that's the problem, not the mention the way and reason why they were removed.


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You're really getting ridiculous with the whole "leave the server" thing. I know where the door (and the logout button) is, thank you kindly. My Classic, and the Classic of Uthgard for ___more than 4 years___ is pre-ToA. Not a stone-age version of the game, with outdated and untestable RAs, retarded maps and God-knows what patch level. That is also the Classic of people playing here for years (a large portion of whom already left, but let's pretend we didn't notice). If you can't lead a normal discussion backed up by facts, at least abstain from branching of into endless rants about how something that was announced a week ago is now suddenly the Holy Grail of DAoC.

And I'm not a single bit interested in changing the staffs mind, simply because I don't believe it to be possible. I am simply calling things out as I see them, and taking pleasure at seeing certain people foaming at the mouth and hiding behind labels like "Classic" because they can't defend their own PoV with any integrity.

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Postby Zarkor » Jun 02, 2010 20:54

Nymeros wrote:My Classic, and the Classic of Uthgard for ___more than 4 years___ is pre-ToA. Not a stone-age version of the game, with outdated and untestable RAs, retarded maps and God-knows what patch level.

Rofl, so your classic is not patches up to 1.70, not Old Frontiers and not Old RAs?

YOUR Classic definately isn't actual Classic then.


Stop acting like everything pre-NF is retardedly flawed because you don't like it, it's getting annoying.

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Postby Nymeros » Jun 02, 2010 21:08

Not everything pre-NF is retardedly flawed, but a large number of things are. Many others and myself have pointed this out clearly and concisely, and the only reply (when you peel of the flame and walls of text) people like you can muster up is "ROFL BUT IT'S CLASSIC".

Also, YOU do not get to decide what actual Classic is. When "your" Classic gets to be on Uth as long as "my" Classic did, then you may rofl all you want.

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Postby nixian » Jun 02, 2010 21:20

Just fyi Nymeros..

"pre toa" = OF + old RAs..

you do know that, right?

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Postby Nymeros » Jun 02, 2010 21:38

I think that everyone understood what I meant (as the person I replied to obviously did), and for those who didn't I included "Uthgard Classic". :wink:

Not to mention that not everything after ToA is bad either, there were many bugfixes and needed balance adjustments after it. Just the expansion in itself sucks.

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Postby Zarkor » Jun 02, 2010 23:45

Nymeros wrote:Also, YOU do not get to decide what actual Classic is. When "your" Classic gets to be on Uth as long as "my" Classic did, then you may rofl all you want.

That's the thing, nobody decides what actual Classic is. Actual Classic was the game right before ToA came out, period.

I guess your view doesn't include what you think was flawed in that era and rather replace those with the newer versions right away. Of course those new elements would have to be modified to fit with the classic gameplay and to an extent patch limit.

That's where I prefer otherwise. Instead of replacing those flawed aspects immediately, I rather use them as a base to start modifying. It's clear that some aspects are indeed not how they should be, I won't argue with that.

I guess it comes down to who values the classic aspect of things the most when approaching flaws in what's actual classic.


Oh well, it's nothing new that we disagree. :)

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Postby warblood » Jun 03, 2010 08:31

the major point of bg going to 35 is that is the point where someone cons green to a 50. so therefore everyone under can rvr in bgs and when you become available rps for lvl 50 u are now stuck to going to rvr in OF. there is no purpose for anyone under 35 to be in emain but as soon as you are worth rps to everyone. They want to go into the real world instead of the bgs

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