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Braxis
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by Braxis » May 29, 2010 20:20
Why not remove stealthers wile were at it?
They only serve to split the end RvR population anyway... 
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Musikus
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by Musikus » May 29, 2010 22:34
@ cyan:
true sight duration is 1 minute...not 30 sec as you mentored.
so a group of 8 scouts can see enemys for 8 minutes (but such a group lacks one thing....melee damage^^)
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Rizla
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by Rizla » May 30, 2010 03:58
Meh,
The stealthwar will be more lame. Just don't implement old RAs, they are seriously sucky  Balance what is here now ( NO new abilities to code, no NEW bugs to hunt, we can balance these RAs right now ), if there is one thing old RAs will make sure off, it is that people will be pointing at classes / realms for imbalance more then ever, and that would be when they are perfectly implemented, god knows when.
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Ramboz
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by Ramboz » May 30, 2010 04:21
OF doubled+ the server players, i hope old RA's to bring even more people.
we are supposed to play "classic" with a non "classic" RA system, there
are imbalances, the one i care most is assassins vs rangers, Rangers became assassins in the assassins kingdom, at last the Era of Rangers will end...
i am expecting QQ etc but hey admit it, you guys are overpowered, PD/IP/SELF BUFFS/SIDE STUN ABUSE/MOS/STUN RA+DAMAGE/SPEED...
i am SO curious to see which one of you will continue play a Ranger after old RA's... BUT very curious !
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Eclipsed
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by Eclipsed » May 30, 2010 06:17
I will play my ranger, no matter which changes. Ive played on many servers at diffrent patch setup and so on. Hard and good times, but always on my ranger. I will fiqure out how to deal with the issues, even if it means to avoid gates with camo down, and use TS to tick off assasins 
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Cyan
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by Cyan » May 30, 2010 06:21
Musikus wrote:@ cyan: true sight duration is 1 minute...not 30 sec as you mentored. so a group of 8 scouts can see enemys for 8 minutes (but such a group lacks one thing....melee damage^^)
Need to read the patch notes...i don't remember perfectly durations, i had play with old ras 7 years ago.
Btw truesight still gives to assassins more chances to pass gates...Stealth war will be great with old ras, the only issue is no more free rps for rangers.
So please don't make custom changes to ras, durations and everything are fine as mythic developed em.
(And i don't care about stealth zerg, the server hasn't enough people to do that, max 1 grp or 10 stealthers...As lady said 8 mins truesight, 22 mins free).
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arnius
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by arnius » May 30, 2010 10:51
Why remove TS? Its the only way bugged bow classes like hunter may get any rp at all, for instance, take 5 bow specced hunter with ts on all.
Every 6min they have 1min that 1 of them can use rapidshot to unstealth all infi's & NS's so the other 4 can crit shot there asses. At least thats the only way I can think of making rp for hunters.
"The past is what made the present, and is a guide line for the future." "A cynic is someone who knows the price off everything, but from nothing the value." "Memento mori, so you can live"
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Jonah
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by Jonah » May 30, 2010 12:20
Ramboz wrote:OF doubled+ the server players, i hope old RA's to bring even more people.
we are supposed to play "classic" with a non "classic" RA system, there
are imbalances, the one i care most is assassins vs rangers, Rangers became assassins in the assassins kingdom, at last the Era of Rangers will end...
i am expecting QQ etc but hey admit it, you guys are overpowered, PD/IP/SELF BUFFS/SIDE STUN ABUSE/MOS/STUN RA+DAMAGE/SPEED...
i am SO curious to see which one of you will continue play a Ranger after old RA's... BUT very curious !
Allow me to laugh, if it wasnt for you and ur minions of zerglings the server might have a nice population of soloing stealthers. But no you just zerg zerg and add. Did i mention the grey killing in df?
OF didnt double the population, was 5-600 before, 8-900 with OF and lately it starts to getting lower to. Old ras will lower it more and stealther wars will become dead. Now atleast u zerglings are easy to avoid but it will be impossible with old ras.
So u think its inbalance when one class can kill one other? And btw there are infils even lower rr then u that manage fine against rangers but u are just to lazy and bad player to adjust and try other ways. Ask Bugsy how u can play solo infil, he kills me atleast 50% of the fights. U and ur minions are just free rps if i get enough time to kill u before the adds come, ask anyone.
The only QQ there will be is from u as many will roll a NS, i already seen alot of rerollers and newcoming NS´s  . So nothing will change, the zerg goes on the only thing different is that it will be more hard detecting other stealthers and the snail speed. These 2 factors alone are ressons enough to /q.
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Snigel
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by Snigel » May 30, 2010 12:43
Ramboz wrote:OF doubled+ the server players, i hope old RA's to bring even more people.
we are supposed to play "classic" with a non "classic" RA system, there
are imbalances, the one i care most is assassins vs rangers, Rangers became assassins in the assassins kingdom, at last the Era of Rangers will end...
i am expecting QQ etc but hey admit it, you guys are overpowered, PD/IP/SELF BUFFS/SIDE STUN ABUSE/MOS/STUN RA+DAMAGE/SPEED...
i am SO curious to see which one of you will continue play a Ranger after old RA's... BUT very curious !
This really made my day Jonah wrote:Allow me to laugh, if it wasnt for you and ur minions of zerglings the server might have a nice population of soloing stealthers. But no you just zerg zerg and add. Did i mention the grey killing in df?
OF didnt double the population, was 5-600 before, 8-900 with OF and lately it starts to getting lower to. Old ras will lower it more and stealther wars will become dead. Now atleast u zerglings are easy to avoid but it will be impossible with old ras.
So u think its inbalance when one class can kill one other? And btw there are infils even lower rr then u that manage fine against rangers but u are just to lazy and bad player to adjust and try other ways. Ask Bugsy how u can play solo infil, he kills me atleast 50% of the fights. U and ur minions are just free rps if i get enough time to kill u before the adds come, ask anyone.
The only QQ there will be is from u as many will roll a NS, i already seen alot of rerollers and newcoming NS´s Razz. So nothing will change, the zerg goes on the only thing different is that it will be more hard detecting other stealthers and the snail speed. These 2 factors alone are ressons enough to /q.
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Suijuris
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by Suijuris » May 30, 2010 13:22
Ok but i guarantee you nubs that you will not like TS, every 5 mins in emain you all will get run over by a group of 8 being lead by a llama archer with TS.
Won't matter if you're an assassin or an archer. And it won't be 8x stealthers doing it, it will be these groups of 8 being lead by an archer.
Don't try to defend any mile gates, you will get buttrammed.
And take out horse routes while you're at it, they wern't classic either.
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Ronian
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by Ronian » May 30, 2010 13:33
The only imbalance in the current stealther wars is Ameliorating Melodies on the minstrel...
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Ramboz
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by Ramboz » May 30, 2010 14:09
Jonah wrote:Ramboz wrote:OF doubled+ the server players, i hope old RA's to bring even more people.
we are supposed to play "classic" with a non "classic" RA system, there
are imbalances, the one i care most is assassins vs rangers, Rangers became assassins in the assassins kingdom, at last the Era of Rangers will end...
i am expecting QQ etc but hey admit it, you guys are overpowered, PD/IP/SELF BUFFS/SIDE STUN ABUSE/MOS/STUN RA+DAMAGE/SPEED...
i am SO curious to see which one of you will continue play a Ranger after old RA's... BUT very curious !
Allow me to laugh, if it wasnt for you and ur minions of zerglings the server might have a nice population of soloing stealthers. But no you just zerg zerg and add. Did i mention the grey killing in df? OF didnt double the population, was 5-600 before, 8-900 with OF and lately it starts to getting lower to. Old ras will lower it more and stealther wars will become dead. Now atleast u zerglings are easy to avoid but it will be impossible with old ras. So u think its inbalance when one class can kill one other? And btw there are infils even lower rr then u that manage fine against rangers but u are just to lazy and bad player to adjust and try other ways. Ask Bugsy how u can play solo infil, he kills me atleast 50% of the fights. U and ur minions are just free rps if i get enough time to kill u before the adds come, ask anyone. The only QQ there will be is from u as many will roll a NS, i already seen alot of rerollers and newcoming NS´s  . So nothing will change, the zerg goes on the only thing different is that it will be more hard detecting other stealthers and the snail speed. These 2 factors alone are ressons enough to /q.
so you are one of those that will stop playing OP Ranger, that says a lot...
no need more comments.
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Noir
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by Noir » May 30, 2010 14:10
that's true nothing will change , noobs always play overppowered class , now ranger wont be OP anymore , they will reroll ns for rush viper =) nuubs don't accept fair fight , they can't play balanced classes , because they will realize how bad they are ..i would bet a lot that 90% of ranger would love to trade their char for a warlock
ramboz is a noskilled zerger but he said only true things : era of ranger is over , snigel jonah and every noob ranger go reroll a ns fast 
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Snigel
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by Snigel » May 30, 2010 14:22
Hey Noir, I just eat a burger and it tasted delicious
Check this dude
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Jonah
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by Jonah » May 30, 2010 14:32
Noir wrote:that's true nothing will change , noobs always play overppowered class , now ranger wont be OP anymore , they will reroll ns for rush viper =) nuubs don't accept fair fight , they can't play balanced classes , because they will realize how bad they are ..i would bet a lot that 90% of ranger would love to trade their char for a warlock ramboz is a noskilled zerger but he said only true things : era of ranger is over , snigel jonah and every noob ranger go reroll a ns fast 
/smile
Rangers will still be hard, AP2, FA2, 100% IP, TS, purge, dodger etc. The bad thing is they see nothing and move with snail speed. I want to see. Now i can solo, with old RA i will be forced to duo with a NS.
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