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Blublub
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Postby Blublub » May 22, 2010 19:01

Seemingly bard+eld is the best at first glance, but my main concern is adds. If you get added, all you have is a quickcast to free yourself. Obviously, too many will kill any duo, but with bard+bm you can at least slam/snare peel the bard and the bm doesnt die in 4 hits. Bard+vw comes to mind but the lack of stoicism etc is a bit rough imo.
Bard+eld and bard+bm are fairly easy to build off of as well, if you want small man or a fg.

Another idea that comes to mind is bard+ment. You're faced with the same problems as an eld, but you're trading debuffs,disease, and snare for heals, cure mes, and charm.

Going back to the bm, a trio i used to run was bard+druid+bm. BMs seem to do decent enough damage, certainly fulled buffed, to produce, but any idea how well the trio would fare on uthgard?

Thoughts and opinions please :) no flame

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Postby Maidrion » May 22, 2010 19:31

I've found Druid + Light Eld to be quite good aswell. Downsides are ofc no speed and no (de)mezz but eld mezz is still quite good on non stoic/det tanks.

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Postby Force » May 22, 2010 23:07

Lack of stoicism isn't as big of a deal for duo so I think bard VW is really good. If you could run 3 bard/chanter/ment can kill things real fast.

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Postby hopscotsch » May 22, 2010 23:57

Force wrote:Lack of stoicism isn't as big of a deal for duo so I think bard VW is really good. If you could run 3 bard/chanter/ment can kill things real fast.

I was about to write the exact same things :)

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Postby Nymeros » May 23, 2010 00:06

Where would you run with this duo anyway? BGs?

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Postby Blublub » May 23, 2010 04:36

BGs to level, but primarily late night rvr as im PST, and in df, the only time lack of stoicism raises an alarm for me would be against sorcs, really =/, especially in the off chance that it ends up bard vw vs sorc cleri

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Postby Blublub » May 23, 2010 04:38

it also seems to me like vw damage suffers the 2h woes that main tanks have, and a bm would outdamage a vw =/

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Postby Nymeros » May 23, 2010 12:58

I think you should know that visible solo and smallman is virtually dead on Uthgard and has been since OF was implemented. This is coming from a person who ran solo/duo 90% of the time, and ran a trio the other 10%. :wink:

In light of that, my suggestion would be to either pick classes that are also useful in full group setups, or to pick the stealther route and roll a duo with at least 1 MoS char.

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Postby Methusalem » May 23, 2010 16:23

some time ago in agramon, one of the best duos was Bard+champ.

dunno why or if it still works in of...
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Postby Finalement » May 23, 2010 23:45

Methusalem wrote:some time ago in agramon, one of the best duos was Bard+champ.

dunno why or if it still works in of...


SHould work nowdays too

Champ has rupt, debuffs, insta-DD and (according to spec) slam. Or the LW-Backstylestun.
Decent duo in my eyes.

If you have a Vale that can strafe, you should be okay with the damage too. Sidestylechain and Conflag are good styleprocs.

Lack of stoicism is nonsense. Most Vales have Purge 3 anyway and a Bard+Caster duo hasn't Stoicism either.

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